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the smoke radio for the masses headline

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today july 8 1947

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disc has been found and is now in

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the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly

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our differences worldwide

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would vanish

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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network and kgra the global radio

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i need your help to get to the year

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you're listening to fate to flag with

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well well well good evening fade to

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black

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bespoke radio

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2021

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298 days into the new year only 67 days

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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the middle of nowhere

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up and down available and west north and

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south far and near

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this is fade to block for kjcr the game

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changer network and an x

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the mx network premiering this sunday

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halloween night

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race hobbes

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i'm your old jimmy church what is

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cracking everybody how you doing

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happy halloween

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that's what i'm talking about

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and tonight we have very special guests

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because it is our halloween

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ghost

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stories spooktacular tonight

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with jim harold

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yeah man

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jim harold who is who is the most in

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halloween i mean

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it's jim harold

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jim harold but we got him tonight

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we got uh jim tonight he's gonna be with

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us here at the bottom of the hour it's

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shaw the loon witch our eighth annual

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shaw halloween special event

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hit redial on that phone the phones are

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gonna be jammed up and uh she is going

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to be doing readings all night long

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have been with us every single year

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how many of you have had your readings

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how many of you have uh called me

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texted me emailed me dude

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shaw was right

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she's amazing she's amazing so tomorrow

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of the year and it is getting cold

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yeah it's getting cold

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uh the last two days have been

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all right and uh uh had a great call

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today with uh river moon coffee

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yeah juanita jeff they've got some

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exciting stuff going down and we'll keep

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you posted but uh some exciting stuff

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coming from river moon coffee all right

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going to be at the star works usa ufos

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all the above and beyond conference

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get your tickets get your hotel rooms

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get ready it is at the aquarius hotel

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there is not a better weekend that you

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can have it is totally cool it is in

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unbelievable it is going to be great

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jacques valet paul heineck grant cameron

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colin andrews heimi massan 10 other

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just come and hang out with us

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all right leave your home leave your

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home come out and hang out with us in

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laughlin nevada it's gonna be great all

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yeah follow me right there at j church

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radio the sandbox on twitter

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is hashtag f2b we don't bite

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come and hang out with the fader knots

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really cool interactive platform

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uh for all of the shows over there

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nxnetwork.com and again

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uh i'll have everything up everything

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that'll be out there on social media you

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wow what an amazing lineup of shows race

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hobbs race hobbs got it together and

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it's gonna be great okay so that's all

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happening this wednesday or this sunday

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night and uh tomorrow night uh or i'm

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sorry thursday night race hobbs is gonna

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be with us here on fade to block for

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he's gonna end up taking calls

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he's gonna end up helping me with the

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phones you know it's fader night it's

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racehobbs

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get to the breaking news

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a powerful storm that rolled through

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record-breaking rainfall and

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before a bomb cyclone slammed into the

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dropping nearly a foot of rain in some

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climate change fueled mega drought

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2425 foot falls had all but vanished

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a cyber attack disrupted the sale of

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causing long lines at the gas stations

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across the country weeks before the

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anniversary of the 2019 street protest

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that followed fuel price hikes

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assaults which it has blamed of course

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on the united states and israel

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well nasa's helicopter ingenuity has

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that strange radio signal

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in a nearby star syndrome well it was

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a signal beaming towards earth and it

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and home to at least one potentially

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habitable planet because the signal fell

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waves that are rarely made by human

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aircraft or satellites researchers

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enough

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it's likely because the signal wasn't

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come from proxima centauri at all

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it was human-made radio interference

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from computers right here on earth from

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a piece of malfunctioning electronic

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equipment that either got shut down

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story and they're trying to stick to it

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let's get the show cracking happy

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birthday to today

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seth mcfarlane

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seth macfarlane today is 47 and i've got

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one message to seth

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what happened to orville

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it was like the best tv show ever

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ever well

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not quite as good as rick and morty but

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it was really great

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two and a half years

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i mean i need me some horrible seth

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john heater today

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is 43.

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napoleon dynamite

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that's right

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carrie elwes today is 58 the princess

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bride

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the uh dreaded pirate

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roberts or whatever his name was

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oh man uh bass and funk god bootsy

288
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collins today is

289
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70 years old

290
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rita wilson today is 65. now

291
00:18:23,590 --> 00:18:21,679
i know what you're thinking you know tom

292
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hanks wife

293
00:18:29,029 --> 00:18:25,440
yeah

294
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but she was amazing in that thing you do

295
00:18:33,270 --> 00:18:30,880
also starring

296
00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:33,280
tom hanks written by tom hanks

297
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but uh directed by tom hanks

298
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[Laughter]

299
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performed by tom hanks and uh

300
00:18:45,350 --> 00:18:42,240
but that thing you do is an amazing

301
00:18:47,590 --> 00:18:45,360
movie and rita wilson just

302
00:18:50,150 --> 00:18:47,600
stole the show happy birthday rita

303
00:18:51,430 --> 00:18:50,160
wilson today 65 years old and natalie

304
00:18:52,710 --> 00:18:51,440
merchant

305
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today

306
00:18:58,310 --> 00:18:55,200
is 58.

307
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our dead guy's birthday is

308
00:19:06,470 --> 00:19:00,400
al casey

309
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69.

310
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well first off was a great guitar player

311
00:19:14,950 --> 00:19:12,320
but

312
00:19:17,830 --> 00:19:14,960
al probably played guitar

313
00:19:19,909 --> 00:19:17,840
on more albums than anybody else in the

314
00:19:21,830 --> 00:19:19,919
history of music he was a member of the

315
00:19:24,710 --> 00:19:21,840
wrecking crew

316
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and he worked for are you ready

317
00:19:28,870 --> 00:19:26,799
the beach boys

318
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phil spector

319
00:19:32,390 --> 00:19:30,799
elvis presley

320
00:19:34,310 --> 00:19:32,400
glenn campbell

321
00:19:35,990 --> 00:19:34,320
the association

322
00:19:37,590 --> 00:19:36,000
the monkeys

323
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johnny cash

324
00:19:42,230 --> 00:19:39,039
eddie arnold

325
00:19:45,430 --> 00:19:42,240
simon a garfunkel the fifth dimension

326
00:19:47,990 --> 00:19:45,440
harry nilsson the partridge family

327
00:19:50,870 --> 00:19:48,000
frank and nancy sinatra

328
00:19:53,270 --> 00:19:50,880
is that enough there's more

329
00:19:55,430 --> 00:19:53,280
during this time he also worked for

330
00:19:59,029 --> 00:19:55,440
three years as a member of the band on

331
00:20:00,789 --> 00:19:59,039
the dean martin show

332
00:20:04,230 --> 00:20:00,799
incredible great guitar player

333
00:20:06,310 --> 00:20:04,240
rockabilly genius

334
00:20:07,990 --> 00:20:06,320
i mean he played out so many he played

335
00:20:10,230 --> 00:20:08,000
on everything

336
00:20:12,710 --> 00:20:10,240
he you know well the wrecking crew of

337
00:20:14,789 --> 00:20:12,720
course right that played on everything

338
00:20:17,190 --> 00:20:14,799
but he had the sound

339
00:20:18,789 --> 00:20:17,200
he had the sound he was absolutely

340
00:20:22,390 --> 00:20:18,799
incredible he died

341
00:20:26,710 --> 00:20:22,400
on september 17th in 2006 in phoenix

342
00:20:28,710 --> 00:20:26,720
arizona happy birthday al casey on this

343
00:20:31,350 --> 00:20:28,720
day in history

344
00:20:33,270 --> 00:20:31,360
1881

345
00:20:35,750 --> 00:20:33,280
it went down

346
00:20:37,990 --> 00:20:35,760
the erp brothers face off against the

347
00:20:40,390 --> 00:20:38,000
clanton mcclary gang

348
00:20:43,909 --> 00:20:40,400
in the legendary shootout at the ok

349
00:20:45,430 --> 00:20:43,919
corral in tombstone arizona

350
00:20:48,230 --> 00:20:45,440
1881

351
00:20:50,470 --> 00:20:48,240
it wasn't that long ago

352
00:20:53,190 --> 00:20:50,480
it wasn't that long think about what's

353
00:20:55,430 --> 00:20:53,200
going down in the west

354
00:20:57,350 --> 00:20:55,440
man 1881

355
00:20:59,110 --> 00:20:57,360
seems like yesterday all right is that

356
00:21:07,830 --> 00:20:59,120
bootsy collins

357
00:21:10,950 --> 00:21:07,840
rick james uh documentary

358
00:21:15,830 --> 00:21:12,950
have you guys seen the new rick james

359
00:21:18,710 --> 00:21:15,840
documentary came out a couple months ago

360
00:21:21,430 --> 00:21:18,720
and uh wow and i thought i knew

361
00:21:23,830 --> 00:21:21,440
everything about rick james i i i really

362
00:21:27,990 --> 00:21:25,990
man man man bootsy's really good in that

363
00:21:30,950 --> 00:21:28,000
okay all right uh

364
00:21:33,350 --> 00:21:30,960
where am i at oh fader fact okay now i i

365
00:21:34,310 --> 00:21:33,360
just said happy birthday to carrie elwes

366
00:21:37,270 --> 00:21:34,320
right

367
00:21:40,390 --> 00:21:37,280
and uh the dreaded

368
00:21:42,470 --> 00:21:40,400
pirate the dreaded

369
00:21:43,590 --> 00:21:42,480
the what was his name

370
00:21:48,070 --> 00:21:43,600
princess

371
00:21:50,549 --> 00:21:48,080
anyway uh

372
00:21:52,630 --> 00:21:50,559
carrie elwes now

373
00:21:55,350 --> 00:21:52,640
his ancestor

374
00:21:57,750 --> 00:21:55,360
my kids great great grandfather john

375
00:22:01,029 --> 00:21:57,760
elwes i'm not making this up this is a

376
00:22:05,510 --> 00:22:01,039
fader fact this is vetted

377
00:22:08,310 --> 00:22:05,520
carrie elwes ancestor john elwes

378
00:22:10,870 --> 00:22:08,320
was the inspiration for the character of

379
00:22:16,310 --> 00:22:10,880
ebenezer scrooge and charles dickens

380
00:22:20,630 --> 00:22:18,630
and that is your favorite fact don't ask

381
00:22:23,430 --> 00:22:20,640
me how i get this stuff

382
00:22:26,470 --> 00:22:23,440
don't ask me this is this is me

383
00:22:28,789 --> 00:22:26,480
i extrapolate i find it i chase it down

384
00:22:29,909 --> 00:22:28,799
i vet it i bring it to you as a fader

385
00:22:32,950 --> 00:22:29,919
fact

386
00:22:34,710 --> 00:22:32,960
and if i write a book

387
00:22:37,029 --> 00:22:34,720
if i write a book maybe i'll just just

388
00:22:39,510 --> 00:22:37,039
do fader facts and i don't have to write

389
00:22:41,750 --> 00:22:39,520
anything i can just copy and paste

390
00:22:43,590 --> 00:22:41,760
copy and paste copy and paste and i

391
00:22:46,470 --> 00:22:43,600
don't have to be a genius

392
00:22:48,789 --> 00:22:46,480
yeah i don't have to be a writer

393
00:22:51,350 --> 00:22:48,799
tonight very special guest it's

394
00:22:52,549 --> 00:22:51,360
halloween ghost stories night with jim

395
00:22:54,630 --> 00:22:52,559
harold

396
00:22:56,630 --> 00:22:54,640
and it's going to be great so just stay

397
00:22:58,230 --> 00:22:56,640
right there tomorrow night is our annual

398
00:23:01,909 --> 00:22:58,240
halloween special

399
00:23:03,510 --> 00:23:01,919
with shaw the loon witch tomorrow is our

400
00:23:05,110 --> 00:23:03,520
eighth

401
00:23:07,270 --> 00:23:05,120
you know and i looked it up you know

402
00:23:09,990 --> 00:23:07,280
last year was our seventh and i went

403
00:23:13,510 --> 00:23:10,000
back and i thought man i guess

404
00:23:15,270 --> 00:23:13,520
eight years with shaw laloon witch and

405
00:23:16,549 --> 00:23:15,280
that's going down tomorrow night it's

406
00:23:17,590 --> 00:23:16,559
your calls

407
00:23:19,750 --> 00:23:17,600
and

408
00:23:22,549 --> 00:23:19,760
you've heard the shows in the past she

409
00:23:25,190 --> 00:23:22,559
does three card readings back to back to

410
00:23:27,909 --> 00:23:25,200
back to back to back to back and um i

411
00:23:29,909 --> 00:23:27,919
think uh one year we did

412
00:23:31,669 --> 00:23:29,919
we did over a hundred

413
00:23:33,590 --> 00:23:31,679
uh

414
00:23:35,909 --> 00:23:33,600
and i think we did that a couple of

415
00:23:37,630 --> 00:23:35,919
times kind of slowed it down a bit and

416
00:23:39,750 --> 00:23:37,640
got it down to about 80.

417
00:23:41,750 --> 00:23:39,760
[Laughter]

418
00:23:44,789 --> 00:23:41,760
so we'll see what happens tomorrow night

419
00:23:46,549 --> 00:23:44,799
with shaw the loon which thursday night

420
00:23:48,310 --> 00:23:46,559
race hobbs is going to join me right

421
00:23:51,350 --> 00:23:48,320
here for fader night

422
00:23:54,230 --> 00:23:51,360
announcing the on x network and we're

423
00:23:56,390 --> 00:23:54,240
gonna go down the full lineup um maybe

424
00:23:59,110 --> 00:23:56,400
i'll have a special guest or two uh from

425
00:24:00,390 --> 00:23:59,120
the on ax network uh the premiere and

426
00:24:04,310 --> 00:24:00,400
the party

427
00:24:06,710 --> 00:24:04,320
is sunday night uh halloween night all

428
00:24:08,870 --> 00:24:06,720
right now i'm going to be on first

429
00:24:12,390 --> 00:24:08,880
um halloween night and i think

430
00:24:15,029 --> 00:24:12,400
everything kicks off i'll let race

431
00:24:17,269 --> 00:24:15,039
plans may have changed but uh i'm going

432
00:24:19,590 --> 00:24:17,279
to go first because i'm west coast and

433
00:24:20,870 --> 00:24:19,600
i've got to hand out candy so i've got

434
00:24:22,230 --> 00:24:20,880
to get in

435
00:24:24,630 --> 00:24:22,240
get out

436
00:24:27,350 --> 00:24:24,640
and then and and go and sit on my front

437
00:24:28,789 --> 00:24:27,360
porch and give out candy because it is

438
00:24:30,310 --> 00:24:28,799
halloween

439
00:24:35,750 --> 00:24:30,320
all right

440
00:24:38,230 --> 00:24:35,760
and uh that takes care of that let's uh

441
00:24:40,630 --> 00:24:38,240
let's talk for a bit

442
00:24:46,390 --> 00:24:40,640
i love halloween oh i also love my river

443
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:52,070
i do

444
00:24:55,750 --> 00:24:54,710
it's getting cold outside

445
00:24:58,789 --> 00:24:55,760
so

446
00:25:01,669 --> 00:24:58,799
in my mind my my mental madness that

447
00:25:03,430 --> 00:25:01,679
goes on up here i thought

448
00:25:05,110 --> 00:25:03,440
you need to add

449
00:25:07,669 --> 00:25:05,120
hot chocolate

450
00:25:09,830 --> 00:25:07,679
make your own mocha

451
00:25:12,390 --> 00:25:09,840
add the hot chocolate little whipped

452
00:25:15,590 --> 00:25:12,400
cream i you know make my own mocha and

453
00:25:17,510 --> 00:25:15,600
then it's a fall coffee

454
00:25:19,430 --> 00:25:17,520
it's a fall it's the turning of the

455
00:25:21,350 --> 00:25:19,440
leaves halloween it's getting cold

456
00:25:24,390 --> 00:25:21,360
outside brew

457
00:25:27,510 --> 00:25:24,400
and uh it makes sense thong me out

458
00:25:29,350 --> 00:25:27,520
all right uh drew just says uh jimmy

459
00:25:31,909 --> 00:25:29,360
email me a mailing address i want to

460
00:25:33,110 --> 00:25:31,919
gift you a set of my books i will do

461
00:25:37,269 --> 00:25:33,120
that drew

462
00:25:46,070 --> 00:25:40,470
river moon coffee rivermoonwellness.com

463
00:25:50,789 --> 00:25:48,310
i love halloween

464
00:25:53,990 --> 00:25:52,390
when you have

465
00:25:55,669 --> 00:25:54,000
you know two daughters

466
00:26:00,070 --> 00:25:55,679
same age

467
00:26:03,430 --> 00:26:00,080
and even uh even before that one of my

468
00:26:06,710 --> 00:26:03,440
things as a new parent

469
00:26:07,750 --> 00:26:06,720
is i couldn't wait

470
00:26:08,830 --> 00:26:07,760
for

471
00:26:11,590 --> 00:26:08,840
my daughter

472
00:26:13,830 --> 00:26:11,600
nicole to be

473
00:26:16,870 --> 00:26:13,840
old enough to walk

474
00:26:18,630 --> 00:26:16,880
because the second she could walk i was

475
00:26:20,470 --> 00:26:18,640
getting her in a halloween costume and

476
00:26:21,750 --> 00:26:20,480
i'm taking her trick-or-treating i mean

477
00:26:24,630 --> 00:26:21,760
that that

478
00:26:26,549 --> 00:26:24,640
i cannot tell you christmas trees yes

479
00:26:29,190 --> 00:26:26,559
santa claus charlie brown christmas all

480
00:26:32,870 --> 00:26:29,200
of that you know those are all plans but

481
00:26:35,990 --> 00:26:32,880
trick-or-treating with the kids right

482
00:26:38,549 --> 00:26:36,000
and uh wow i mean my fondest memories

483
00:26:41,269 --> 00:26:38,559
are trick-or-treating with my friends

484
00:26:43,110 --> 00:26:41,279
and and figuring things out well

485
00:26:47,669 --> 00:26:43,120
absolutely

486
00:26:49,909 --> 00:26:47,679
so fast forward a few years and uh i

487
00:26:52,470 --> 00:26:49,919
moved to uh

488
00:26:54,710 --> 00:26:52,480
uh venice beach

489
00:26:57,269 --> 00:26:54,720
and this is like 2005.

490
00:26:59,510 --> 00:26:57,279
and i'm down there uh

491
00:27:00,310 --> 00:26:59,520
and and and doing my thing

492
00:27:03,190 --> 00:27:00,320
uh

493
00:27:07,350 --> 00:27:05,750
okay all right a text from jim harold

494
00:27:09,909 --> 00:27:07,360
he's such a

495
00:27:12,070 --> 00:27:09,919
perfectionist such a professional

496
00:27:14,710 --> 00:27:12,080
and so we moved down to venice beach and

497
00:27:17,029 --> 00:27:14,720
it's now halloween this is 2005. so this

498
00:27:20,470 --> 00:27:17,039
is 15 16 years ago

499
00:27:22,789 --> 00:27:20,480
and our daughters nicole and diana are

500
00:27:25,909 --> 00:27:22,799
like seven years old third grade

501
00:27:29,029 --> 00:27:25,919
and you know tiny and and and so we head

502
00:27:31,990 --> 00:27:29,039
out trick-or-treating in venice and and

503
00:27:34,870 --> 00:27:32,000
i read this stuff in in the local

504
00:27:37,669 --> 00:27:34,880
newspaper and heard about this

505
00:27:40,789 --> 00:27:37,679
like two block stretch of venice beach

506
00:27:42,389 --> 00:27:40,799
where everybody there works in the film

507
00:27:44,149 --> 00:27:42,399
industry special effects and this and

508
00:27:46,470 --> 00:27:44,159
that and they and they have this

509
00:27:48,310 --> 00:27:46,480
competition of who's got the best

510
00:27:50,310 --> 00:27:48,320
halloween house and best halloween

511
00:27:51,669 --> 00:27:50,320
decorations and things and so we go

512
00:27:54,149 --> 00:27:51,679
through and we're doing all of this and

513
00:27:56,549 --> 00:27:54,159
it's great from house to house it just

514
00:27:58,389 --> 00:27:56,559
got better and better and and it was

515
00:28:00,070 --> 00:27:58,399
over the top

516
00:28:02,149 --> 00:28:00,080
uh some of the things in the haunted

517
00:28:04,710 --> 00:28:02,159
houses the visual effects and everything

518
00:28:06,230 --> 00:28:04,720
and so we get down and and

519
00:28:08,470 --> 00:28:06,240
when we go down one side of the street

520
00:28:09,750 --> 00:28:08,480
and and getting ready to make a u-turn

521
00:28:12,710 --> 00:28:09,760
and come back it's like two blocks

522
00:28:13,669 --> 00:28:12,720
there's like 10 000 people

523
00:28:15,110 --> 00:28:13,679
out there

524
00:28:16,870 --> 00:28:15,120
it was crazy

525
00:28:18,870 --> 00:28:16,880
and i hear this

526
00:28:21,510 --> 00:28:18,880
crowd yelling

527
00:28:23,830 --> 00:28:21,520
like loud like rock concert stuff i'm

528
00:28:26,789 --> 00:28:23,840
like what's going on so got the girls

529
00:28:30,870 --> 00:28:26,799
and we make the u-turn and i look boom

530
00:28:32,950 --> 00:28:30,880
there's this giant guillotine

531
00:28:35,110 --> 00:28:32,960
it's got to be 30 feet tall

532
00:28:37,830 --> 00:28:35,120
and it's up on this thing and

533
00:28:39,909 --> 00:28:37,840
scaffolding and lights and

534
00:28:41,669 --> 00:28:39,919
and stuff and it's a guillotine man with

535
00:28:43,750 --> 00:28:41,679
the with the thing

536
00:28:45,110 --> 00:28:43,760
and i'm standing there and i've got my

537
00:28:46,230 --> 00:28:45,120
daughters i'm holding both of their

538
00:28:48,149 --> 00:28:46,240
hands

539
00:28:50,149 --> 00:28:48,159
and they bring up

540
00:28:52,389 --> 00:28:50,159
this lady

541
00:28:55,430 --> 00:28:52,399
and they've got the the

542
00:28:57,590 --> 00:28:55,440
the executioner dude and and he's in

543
00:28:58,549 --> 00:28:57,600
black and he's got a big axe and and

544
00:29:01,269 --> 00:28:58,559
stuff

545
00:29:03,029 --> 00:29:01,279
and and he puts this lady in into the

546
00:29:05,190 --> 00:29:03,039
guillotine

547
00:29:07,669 --> 00:29:05,200
and straps her in and she's screaming in

548
00:29:09,190 --> 00:29:07,679
her hands and i'm like okay all right

549
00:29:14,630 --> 00:29:09,200
got my two daughters

550
00:29:19,669 --> 00:29:17,029
and her head flies off

551
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:19,679
blood goes everywhere

552
00:29:23,990 --> 00:29:21,810
and my daughters scream

553
00:29:26,789 --> 00:29:24,000
[Music]

554
00:29:28,549 --> 00:29:26,799
and i was like holy crap

555
00:29:30,789 --> 00:29:28,559
and i backed up and i thought man what

556
00:29:33,350 --> 00:29:30,799
what are you doing these are family this

557
00:29:36,070 --> 00:29:33,360
is crazy

558
00:29:37,430 --> 00:29:36,080
you know and my daughters are like we're

559
00:29:41,190 --> 00:29:37,440
crying

560
00:29:43,510 --> 00:29:41,200
and uh and and we walk away and and it

561
00:29:46,950 --> 00:29:43,520
was the most horrific

562
00:29:50,389 --> 00:29:46,960
thing i have ever seen

563
00:29:52,310 --> 00:29:50,399
the heads were being lopped off

564
00:29:54,389 --> 00:29:52,320
and and i don't know how they did it i

565
00:29:57,110 --> 00:29:54,399
was standing i was standing

566
00:29:59,909 --> 00:29:57,120
right there i'm an adult and i'm

567
00:30:02,149 --> 00:29:59,919
watching and

568
00:30:04,389 --> 00:30:02,159
it was perfect

569
00:30:06,310 --> 00:30:04,399
this head came flying off

570
00:30:08,389 --> 00:30:06,320
and i don't know i don't know

571
00:30:09,510 --> 00:30:08,399
i don't know how they did it and my

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daughters

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traumatized

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and uh that's it man we booked i don't

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even think and this is my memory

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i think we like bailed on

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trick-or-treating the mood was

578
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the mood was off

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like it

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and that's kicking off

581
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halloween ghost stories night with jim

582
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harold i'm your host jimmy church i love

583
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halloween but i will never forget and if

584
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there's anybody listening in venice

585
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beach

586
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uh you know exactly what i'm talking

587
00:30:48,070 --> 00:30:45,440
about and do you know 15 years ago you

588
00:30:50,630 --> 00:30:48,080
know about that guillotine i there's no

589
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way they brought that back for for a

590
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return run

591
00:30:54,789 --> 00:30:53,440
no

592
00:30:57,350 --> 00:30:54,799
it was nuts

593
00:30:59,190 --> 00:30:57,360
it was not this is fade to black i am

594
00:31:02,310 --> 00:30:59,200
your host jimmy church tonight

595
00:31:04,710 --> 00:31:02,320
jim harold is here it's halloween ghost

596
00:31:06,230 --> 00:31:04,720
stories night and i i just can't wait

597
00:31:09,350 --> 00:31:06,240
for this it's going to be perfect and

598
00:31:12,389 --> 00:31:09,360
then tomorrow night shaw the loon witch

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is here for our eighth annual halloween

600
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special event shaw is going to be giving

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your readings

602
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all night long i'm your host jimmy

603
00:31:25,350 --> 00:31:22,080
church this is fade to black on the game

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changer network kjcr

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and as of sunday night the on x network

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that's right tonight it's halloween uh

607
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ghost stories night happy halloween

608
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everybody i'll be right back with our

609
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guest jim harold stay with us

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hello fader knots ray sabz here inviting

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all of you to join us for the launch of

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a brand new broadcasting platform called

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the annex network tune in halloween

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night as we go live on the x streams for

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the first time to reveal our plans for

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this brand new and exciting platform if

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you have an interest in the paranormal

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and alternative research breakthrough

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technology you will want to make the x

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your brand new home our programs will

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feature many familiar faces and even

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more new ones and our listeners can

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00:35:35,030 --> 00:35:32,320
interact and help investigative

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journalists authors researchers and

689
00:35:40,069 --> 00:35:37,680
hosts who work diligently in the fight

690
00:35:43,030 --> 00:35:40,079
against the ideological divide that

691
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exist in media today this platform is

692
00:35:47,430 --> 00:35:44,960
for critical thinkers seeking the

693
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alternatives to mainstream thought so

694
00:35:54,390 --> 00:35:51,880
join us october the 31st at 8 pm eastern

695
00:35:57,910 --> 00:35:54,400
xnetwork.com as we kick off the

696
00:36:00,550 --> 00:35:57,920
mothership the unex network explaining

697
00:36:05,670 --> 00:36:00,560
the unexplained

698
00:36:09,430 --> 00:36:08,069
fade to black

699
00:36:13,109 --> 00:36:09,440
is not

700
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your father's radio show on the game

701
00:36:18,230 --> 00:36:16,160
changer radio network

702
00:36:22,790 --> 00:36:18,240
hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

703
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what's up i'm chris what up this is kyle

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jimmy church radio

705
00:36:47,349 --> 00:36:45,829
all right welcome back fade to black i

706
00:36:50,069 --> 00:36:47,359
am your host jimmy church happy

707
00:36:53,750 --> 00:36:50,079
halloween everybody it's uh

708
00:36:56,310 --> 00:36:53,760
one of my favorite times of the year and

709
00:36:57,190 --> 00:36:56,320
uh tomorrow tomorrow night shaw the loon

710
00:36:59,670 --> 00:36:57,200
witch

711
00:37:02,069 --> 00:36:59,680
is here our eighth annual halloween

712
00:37:04,550 --> 00:37:02,079
special with shaw the loon witch and

713
00:37:06,390 --> 00:37:04,560
that is tomorrow night and uh thursday

714
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night is fader night but we're gonna

715
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have race hobbs here helping me out

716
00:37:13,270 --> 00:37:11,920
to announce the on x network that is

717
00:37:15,589 --> 00:37:13,280
kicking off

718
00:37:17,349 --> 00:37:15,599
october 31st on halloween night all

719
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right so that's it

720
00:37:20,829 --> 00:37:19,200
but tonight

721
00:37:24,310 --> 00:37:20,839
it's halloween ghost stories with jim

722
00:37:26,630 --> 00:37:24,320
harold and he is of course the host of

723
00:37:27,910 --> 00:37:26,640
the paranormal podcast and jim harold's

724
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campfire

725
00:37:33,670 --> 00:37:30,800
and this summer he will celebrate his

726
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16th anniversary just celebrated his

727
00:37:38,390 --> 00:37:35,760
16th anniversary of podcasting on the

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unknown and before becoming a full-time

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podcaster back in 2012 he worked on the

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business side of media for over 15 years

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he has written a popular series of five

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campfire books featuring the best tales

733
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of the unknown from his podcast true

734
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ghost stories the jim harold's campfire

735
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one two three four and five all kindle

736
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number one supernatural bestsellers his

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programs have been downloaded over 50

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million times the paranormal podcaster

739
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jim harold's campfire among the top 1

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1

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of downloaded podcasts on the industry's

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largest podcast hosts libsyn and i would

743
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like to welcome back to fade to black

744
00:38:22,630 --> 00:38:20,240
jim harold jim good evening man

745
00:38:25,430 --> 00:38:22,640
oh oh hold on hold on i'm gonna do that

746
00:38:27,510 --> 00:38:25,440
again i hit the wrong button

747
00:38:28,350 --> 00:38:27,520
jim good evening man

748
00:38:30,310 --> 00:38:28,360
take two

749
00:38:32,790 --> 00:38:30,320
[Laughter]

750
00:38:34,470 --> 00:38:32,800
jimmy good evening happy halloween to

751
00:38:37,430 --> 00:38:34,480
you and all the fader knots yeah

752
00:38:39,510 --> 00:38:37,440
absolutely thank you for that jim and uh

753
00:38:41,589 --> 00:38:39,520
i mean it goes without saying uh this

754
00:38:44,069 --> 00:38:41,599
this time of year

755
00:38:47,190 --> 00:38:44,079
you've got to be in uh one of the most

756
00:38:49,670 --> 00:38:47,200
in demand i guest on different shows

757
00:38:51,750 --> 00:38:49,680
around the country and i know

758
00:38:54,550 --> 00:38:51,760
you had a very busy day

759
00:38:57,349 --> 00:38:54,560
but you're here with us tonight and

760
00:38:59,670 --> 00:38:57,359
uh the logistics of making sure that we

761
00:39:00,390 --> 00:38:59,680
were on the air in between all of your

762
00:39:04,790 --> 00:39:00,400
other

763
00:39:07,109 --> 00:39:04,800
pulled it off and you're here thank you

764
00:39:08,790 --> 00:39:07,119
so much my friend oh thank you and i'm

765
00:39:12,310 --> 00:39:08,800
sorry i was a pain it just seemed like

766
00:39:14,310 --> 00:39:12,320
today was like i was writing uh articles

767
00:39:15,750 --> 00:39:14,320
and then all the blue i got a request to

768
00:39:17,670 --> 00:39:15,760
be on this show and out of the blue i

769
00:39:19,349 --> 00:39:17,680
get you know what it is it's the same

770
00:39:21,270 --> 00:39:19,359
thing for you it's this time of year

771
00:39:23,270 --> 00:39:21,280
it's the most wonderful time of the year

772
00:39:25,270 --> 00:39:23,280
it's halloween and hey you know i'm

773
00:39:27,750 --> 00:39:25,280
happy to be in demand and i appreciate

774
00:39:29,270 --> 00:39:27,760
you extending a very kind invitation to

775
00:39:31,270 --> 00:39:29,280
spend some time with you and the fate or

776
00:39:32,870 --> 00:39:31,280
not now uh

777
00:39:37,190 --> 00:39:32,880
what is it uh

778
00:39:38,790 --> 00:39:37,200
halloween uh is one of my i just look

779
00:39:41,750 --> 00:39:38,800
forward to it

780
00:39:45,190 --> 00:39:41,760
it's right there i don't know uh

781
00:39:48,230 --> 00:39:45,200
thanksgiving christmas halloween

782
00:39:50,550 --> 00:39:48,240
i mean it's like a tie for me

783
00:39:53,109 --> 00:39:50,560
what is it about halloween that that we

784
00:39:54,710 --> 00:39:53,119
just have such a great time well i think

785
00:39:56,870 --> 00:39:54,720
you know part of it's like a roller

786
00:39:59,030 --> 00:39:56,880
coaster you know you you love to get

787
00:40:00,790 --> 00:39:59,040
scared but then you know it's safe it's

788
00:40:02,630 --> 00:40:00,800
like watching a horror movie or

789
00:40:04,470 --> 00:40:02,640
listening to a good ghost story or a

790
00:40:06,069 --> 00:40:04,480
story of the supernatural

791
00:40:07,589 --> 00:40:06,079
and then you know i've been thinking

792
00:40:09,270 --> 00:40:07,599
about this lately because this has come

793
00:40:11,589 --> 00:40:09,280
up i've had discussions with people

794
00:40:13,510 --> 00:40:11,599
about this i also think

795
00:40:15,829 --> 00:40:13,520
why it's so popular with adults

796
00:40:18,230 --> 00:40:15,839
especially now because you know we're

797
00:40:20,069 --> 00:40:18,240
about the same age jimmy and it wasn't

798
00:40:22,630 --> 00:40:20,079
when we were kids it was like a kid's

799
00:40:25,270 --> 00:40:22,640
holiday right for the most part and now

800
00:40:27,190 --> 00:40:25,280
it's become much more um a kids and

801
00:40:29,109 --> 00:40:27,200
adults holiday and i think

802
00:40:31,829 --> 00:40:29,119
that it's because it's a chance for us

803
00:40:34,710 --> 00:40:31,839
as adults to be kids again

804
00:40:37,910 --> 00:40:34,720
uh you know we can have our parties

805
00:40:40,150 --> 00:40:37,920
and dress up in in silly clothing and

806
00:40:42,950 --> 00:40:40,160
and then so i think that's part of it so

807
00:40:44,870 --> 00:40:42,960
the the we love to get scared you know

808
00:40:46,470 --> 00:40:44,880
and then i also think

809
00:40:48,630 --> 00:40:46,480
the other piece of it and this is a

810
00:40:50,710 --> 00:40:48,640
little going deep

811
00:40:53,349 --> 00:40:50,720
you know a lot of

812
00:40:55,349 --> 00:40:53,359
halloween is about death

813
00:40:57,670 --> 00:40:55,359
and death is a very uncomfortable

814
00:41:00,069 --> 00:40:57,680
subject in our society

815
00:41:01,910 --> 00:41:00,079
and it's an opportunity for us to kind

816
00:41:04,710 --> 00:41:01,920
of laugh at death

817
00:41:06,710 --> 00:41:04,720
and talk about death

818
00:41:08,790 --> 00:41:06,720
in a way that's acceptable

819
00:41:12,230 --> 00:41:08,800
if you know what i'm saying

820
00:41:13,670 --> 00:41:12,240
in a weird way i totally get it

821
00:41:15,270 --> 00:41:13,680
so i don't think it's a combination of

822
00:41:16,950 --> 00:41:15,280
all those three that's at least my

823
00:41:19,349 --> 00:41:16,960
thoughts um

824
00:41:22,710 --> 00:41:19,359
i want to ask you uh

825
00:41:25,670 --> 00:41:22,720
i i think all of us as adults we we look

826
00:41:26,630 --> 00:41:25,680
back at previous halloweens

827
00:41:30,630 --> 00:41:26,640
and

828
00:41:33,190 --> 00:41:30,640
we think of our favorite halloween

829
00:41:34,870 --> 00:41:33,200
costume that we've ever done what when

830
00:41:39,109 --> 00:41:34,880
when you look back what's the one

831
00:41:41,030 --> 00:41:39,119
standout uh halloween costume uh that

832
00:41:42,790 --> 00:41:41,040
that that you remember what's the one

833
00:41:44,309 --> 00:41:42,800
that stands out

834
00:41:46,309 --> 00:41:44,319
well actually to be honest with you the

835
00:41:47,670 --> 00:41:46,319
best halloween costume i ever did was

836
00:41:48,790 --> 00:41:47,680
last year

837
00:41:54,710 --> 00:41:48,800
i was

838
00:41:56,550 --> 00:41:54,720
did this remarkable

839
00:41:58,230 --> 00:41:56,560
job in one of the breaks i'll find a

840
00:42:00,790 --> 00:41:58,240
screenshot for you and send it did a

841
00:42:02,230 --> 00:42:00,800
remarkable job and we did a three hour

842
00:42:03,829 --> 00:42:02,240
live livestream and we have our virtual

843
00:42:05,270 --> 00:42:03,839
halloween party every year which we're

844
00:42:07,030 --> 00:42:05,280
having this weekend

845
00:42:09,589 --> 00:42:07,040
at eight o'clock eastern everybody on my

846
00:42:13,349 --> 00:42:09,599
youtube channel but uh

847
00:42:16,309 --> 00:42:13,359
i i love it and i think i enjoy it more

848
00:42:18,870 --> 00:42:16,319
now i love interacting with the audience

849
00:42:20,630 --> 00:42:18,880
and seeing how they dress up and and

850
00:42:22,790 --> 00:42:20,640
stuff but as a kid you know actually i

851
00:42:25,349 --> 00:42:22,800
have a pet peeve as a kid jimmy you know

852
00:42:27,750 --> 00:42:25,359
these kids today they have all these

853
00:42:29,910 --> 00:42:27,760
great costumes you know what i had

854
00:42:32,710 --> 00:42:29,920
my mom would go to the drugstore we

855
00:42:35,589 --> 00:42:32,720
called it a drugstore back then and they

856
00:42:38,390 --> 00:42:35,599
would buy one of those crappy costumes

857
00:42:40,790 --> 00:42:38,400
with the elastic thing and the cut out

858
00:42:43,510 --> 00:42:40,800
eyes the plastic thing you put on your

859
00:42:45,270 --> 00:42:43,520
face and it breaks after like the second

860
00:42:47,510 --> 00:42:45,280
house you're trick-or-treating they're

861
00:42:49,190 --> 00:42:47,520
slobbering in it and then here was the

862
00:42:51,670 --> 00:42:49,200
thing that really teed me off as a kid

863
00:42:53,030 --> 00:42:51,680
jimmy you know you'd be superman right

864
00:42:54,790 --> 00:42:53,040
now wouldn't be

865
00:42:57,670 --> 00:42:54,800
back in the day i'm talking about the

866
00:42:59,750 --> 00:42:57,680
70s back in the day you'd have this and

867
00:43:01,510 --> 00:42:59,760
it wouldn't be superman you know got the

868
00:43:03,190 --> 00:43:01,520
the mask and then you've got the s on

869
00:43:05,510 --> 00:43:03,200
your chest no

870
00:43:06,790 --> 00:43:05,520
it would say superman

871
00:43:08,630 --> 00:43:06,800
with a picture

872
00:43:11,190 --> 00:43:08,640
of superman on it

873
00:43:12,870 --> 00:43:11,200
now what's up with that does superman go

874
00:43:14,710 --> 00:43:12,880
around

875
00:43:16,950 --> 00:43:14,720
with a costume

876
00:43:19,510 --> 00:43:16,960
that has superman written on it and a

877
00:43:21,430 --> 00:43:19,520
picture of superman i don't think so i'd

878
00:43:24,950 --> 00:43:21,440
always teed me off that made me mad as a

879
00:43:26,790 --> 00:43:24,960
kid i'm still angry i have issues now so

880
00:43:30,230 --> 00:43:26,800
how many brothers and sisters did you

881
00:43:32,630 --> 00:43:30,240
have i have one one oh oh so mom and dad

882
00:43:34,630 --> 00:43:32,640
really don't have an excuse see i had

883
00:43:37,829 --> 00:43:34,640
five brothers and sisters so we got the

884
00:43:39,670 --> 00:43:37,839
99 cent halloween costume

885
00:43:43,750 --> 00:43:39,680
right yeah and you know mom had to buy a

886
00:43:47,270 --> 00:43:43,760
bunch of them uh but you no there's no

887
00:43:51,430 --> 00:43:49,270
but back in the day like they got a

888
00:43:53,430 --> 00:43:51,440
cigarette they're like that yeah right

889
00:43:56,710 --> 00:43:53,440
ass kid go get some candy

890
00:43:57,589 --> 00:43:56,720
you know and and i i think about it now

891
00:43:58,470 --> 00:43:57,599
uh

892
00:43:59,190 --> 00:43:58,480
when

893
00:44:00,950 --> 00:43:59,200
uh

894
00:44:03,030 --> 00:44:00,960
obviously we live in a different world

895
00:44:04,150 --> 00:44:03,040
and i'm taking my daughter's

896
00:44:08,870 --> 00:44:04,160
uh

897
00:44:10,069 --> 00:44:08,880
going by themselves

898
00:44:11,910 --> 00:44:10,079
and and

899
00:44:14,470 --> 00:44:11,920
and when we were kids i mean there's

900
00:44:16,470 --> 00:44:14,480
just no way right you probably as an

901
00:44:18,550 --> 00:44:16,480
adult you would as a parent you would

902
00:44:20,630 --> 00:44:18,560
get arrested today

903
00:44:22,950 --> 00:44:20,640
if your kids were out trick-or-treating

904
00:44:26,069 --> 00:44:22,960
and somebody found out uh without you

905
00:44:27,510 --> 00:44:26,079
supervising but when we were kids it was

906
00:44:28,390 --> 00:44:27,520
go time

907
00:44:31,030 --> 00:44:28,400
right

908
00:44:33,589 --> 00:44:31,040
that was it and uh

909
00:44:36,390 --> 00:44:33,599
uh i i just think about that staying out

910
00:44:39,109 --> 00:44:36,400
that late cold freezing

911
00:44:42,069 --> 00:44:39,119
one more house one more block one more

912
00:44:43,589 --> 00:44:42,079
house and it was uh it was the best time

913
00:44:46,470 --> 00:44:43,599
ever um

914
00:44:48,550 --> 00:44:46,480
yeah and it was adventurous you know ooh

915
00:44:49,750 --> 00:44:48,560
what's here you know and and you never

916
00:44:51,910 --> 00:44:49,760
knew what you were gonna get you get the

917
00:44:54,230 --> 00:44:51,920
houses that give you like uh i don't

918
00:44:56,150 --> 00:44:54,240
know like those really hard taffy things

919
00:44:58,069 --> 00:44:56,160
that you can't chew but then you get

920
00:44:59,589 --> 00:44:58,079
somebody give the full size candy bars

921
00:45:01,750 --> 00:44:59,599
so

922
00:45:03,589 --> 00:45:01,760
they got the full-size candy bars we're

923
00:45:05,430 --> 00:45:03,599
gonna go around the block and we're

924
00:45:07,670 --> 00:45:05,440
going to go back

925
00:45:10,069 --> 00:45:07,680
and then trading candy when you get home

926
00:45:11,990 --> 00:45:10,079
yeah right trading candy and

927
00:45:14,230 --> 00:45:12,000
and i would always find somebody that

928
00:45:16,710 --> 00:45:14,240
liked milky way

929
00:45:19,349 --> 00:45:16,720
i didn't do i didn't i dig snickers i

930
00:45:21,190 --> 00:45:19,359
was a snickers guy uh reese's peanut

931
00:45:22,470 --> 00:45:21,200
butter cups but i would give away those

932
00:45:24,309 --> 00:45:22,480
milky ways and

933
00:45:25,990 --> 00:45:24,319
[Laughter]

934
00:45:28,950 --> 00:45:26,000
now if you hate milky ways you must

935
00:45:31,990 --> 00:45:28,960
really hate three musketeers three i i

936
00:45:34,069 --> 00:45:32,000
never they're the same candy bar i no

937
00:45:35,270 --> 00:45:34,079
i'm not a three musketeers guy and i

938
00:45:36,470 --> 00:45:35,280
never even

939
00:45:37,990 --> 00:45:36,480
like uh

940
00:45:40,550 --> 00:45:38,000
faked it

941
00:45:43,190 --> 00:45:40,560
i i just didn't dig him no no i would

942
00:45:46,390 --> 00:45:43,200
give those away i was just thinking my

943
00:45:47,990 --> 00:45:46,400
my favorite halloween costume

944
00:45:49,510 --> 00:45:48,000
uh was

945
00:45:51,670 --> 00:45:49,520
this is like 20

946
00:45:54,870 --> 00:45:51,680
you remember the menendez brothers oh

947
00:45:57,910 --> 00:45:54,880
yeah yeah okay me and my best friend rob

948
00:46:00,710 --> 00:45:57,920
we went as the menendez brothers

949
00:46:03,829 --> 00:46:00,720
to uh this halloween party oh my god and

950
00:46:05,030 --> 00:46:03,839
uh and we did the full thing

951
00:46:08,550 --> 00:46:05,040
we had uh

952
00:46:09,349 --> 00:46:08,560
uh uh izzod sweaters

953
00:46:12,150 --> 00:46:09,359
right

954
00:46:16,870 --> 00:46:12,160
uh tennis rackets both of us had tennis

955
00:46:19,270 --> 00:46:16,880
rackets uh and a couple of uh fake guns

956
00:46:21,829 --> 00:46:19,280
and blood all over our bodies

957
00:46:24,550 --> 00:46:21,839
and and we had fake money like coming

958
00:46:26,630 --> 00:46:24,560
out of the necks of this year and uh but

959
00:46:29,750 --> 00:46:26,640
at the time

960
00:46:31,910 --> 00:46:29,760
because the trial was on tv and and

961
00:46:34,870 --> 00:46:31,920
everything we were the head of the party

962
00:46:36,150 --> 00:46:34,880
and everybody got it you know we just

963
00:46:39,109 --> 00:46:36,160
walked in

964
00:46:41,670 --> 00:46:39,119
and uh it was and i think about all the

965
00:46:44,069 --> 00:46:41,680
time we put into those costumes

966
00:46:46,470 --> 00:46:44,079
and and things but it was it was really

967
00:46:49,750 --> 00:46:46,480
really fun and uh we were the menendez

968
00:46:51,910 --> 00:46:49,760
brothers well okay so um

969
00:46:56,390 --> 00:46:51,920
i wanted to

970
00:46:58,550 --> 00:46:56,400
little story

971
00:47:01,030 --> 00:46:58,560
uh on the show tonight and it was

972
00:47:03,270 --> 00:47:01,040
trick-or-treating uh with my daughters

973
00:47:04,710 --> 00:47:03,280
and we were in venice beach and uh

974
00:47:08,550 --> 00:47:04,720
california

975
00:47:10,710 --> 00:47:08,560
and there was uh this street a couple of

976
00:47:12,710 --> 00:47:10,720
blocks long where they had this big

977
00:47:14,390 --> 00:47:12,720
contest you know the best house the best

978
00:47:15,349 --> 00:47:14,400
halloween house and

979
00:47:19,109 --> 00:47:15,359
and

980
00:47:19,990 --> 00:47:19,119
uh uh many of these houses uh

981
00:47:25,750 --> 00:47:20,000
the

982
00:47:27,750 --> 00:47:25,760
special effects and things and stuff

983
00:47:30,950 --> 00:47:27,760
and at the end of the street and i'm not

984
00:47:33,510 --> 00:47:30,960
making this up this is a true story

985
00:47:35,829 --> 00:47:33,520
so we go down there's like 10 000 people

986
00:47:37,670 --> 00:47:35,839
when i say 10 000 and in this two block

987
00:47:39,829 --> 00:47:37,680
stretch it was packed

988
00:47:42,230 --> 00:47:39,839
and so we get down and we make and we're

989
00:47:45,430 --> 00:47:42,240
starting to make the u-turn to come back

990
00:47:47,109 --> 00:47:45,440
and and i hear this loud roaring

991
00:47:48,710 --> 00:47:47,119
coming from the end of the street and i

992
00:47:50,470 --> 00:47:48,720
thought what's going on i see all the

993
00:47:52,390 --> 00:47:50,480
people around the corner and there's

994
00:47:54,470 --> 00:47:52,400
like this 30-foot

995
00:47:55,829 --> 00:47:54,480
guillotine

996
00:47:58,470 --> 00:47:55,839
ginormous

997
00:48:00,790 --> 00:47:58,480
and it's on this platform scaffolding

998
00:48:02,630 --> 00:48:00,800
like a rock concert stage you know and

999
00:48:06,150 --> 00:48:02,640
this this guillotine

1000
00:48:08,150 --> 00:48:06,160
had this big tall buff executioner with

1001
00:48:10,230 --> 00:48:08,160
you know dressed in black with the

1002
00:48:12,549 --> 00:48:10,240
with the double-bladed axe and he's

1003
00:48:15,109 --> 00:48:12,559
bringing up this this lady

1004
00:48:16,069 --> 00:48:15,119
she was blonde and uh

1005
00:48:17,190 --> 00:48:16,079
with a

1006
00:48:19,510 --> 00:48:17,200
uh

1007
00:48:20,710 --> 00:48:19,520
like a princess gown on and she's

1008
00:48:22,390 --> 00:48:20,720
screaming

1009
00:48:24,790 --> 00:48:22,400
and they put her in the guillotine

1010
00:48:26,790 --> 00:48:24,800
they'd lock her down flip the thing over

1011
00:48:29,109 --> 00:48:26,800
and i got my daughters and my daughters

1012
00:48:32,549 --> 00:48:29,119
are seven years old both of them i'm

1013
00:48:36,870 --> 00:48:32,559
holding their hands and i'm watching

1014
00:48:41,750 --> 00:48:39,349
and chops her head off and her head

1015
00:48:43,829 --> 00:48:41,760
rolls down and goes into this bucket and

1016
00:48:47,270 --> 00:48:43,839
this blood

1017
00:48:49,670 --> 00:48:47,280
and i'm stan and my daughters scream

1018
00:48:52,390 --> 00:48:49,680
and and start crying and it was the most

1019
00:48:54,870 --> 00:48:52,400
unreal thing i've ever seen in my life

1020
00:48:56,950 --> 00:48:54,880
and i was like oh my god

1021
00:48:59,510 --> 00:48:56,960
that was amazing

1022
00:49:03,190 --> 00:48:59,520
but this is it's halloween what are you

1023
00:49:04,470 --> 00:49:03,200
doing right and my daughters lose it man

1024
00:49:07,109 --> 00:49:04,480
and uh

1025
00:49:08,230 --> 00:49:07,119
and i was impressed my daughters they're

1026
00:49:10,069 --> 00:49:08,240
seven

1027
00:49:12,309 --> 00:49:10,079
they think some lady just got her head

1028
00:49:16,630 --> 00:49:12,319
chopped off it was

1029
00:49:19,030 --> 00:49:16,640
it was crazy it was absolutely nuts yeah

1030
00:49:21,349 --> 00:49:19,040
it could be a a little too much you know

1031
00:49:23,109 --> 00:49:21,359
uh my daughters i i would always go with

1032
00:49:24,870 --> 00:49:23,119
them trick-or-treating i absolutely

1033
00:49:26,549 --> 00:49:24,880
loved it we just had a really neat

1034
00:49:29,030 --> 00:49:26,559
halloween thing happen in the last

1035
00:49:31,109 --> 00:49:29,040
couple of weeks um in the midwest here

1036
00:49:33,750 --> 00:49:31,119
in ohio we have a park called cedar

1037
00:49:35,270 --> 00:49:33,760
point oh yeah of course it's like one of

1038
00:49:36,470 --> 00:49:35,280
the great roller coaster parks in the

1039
00:49:37,990 --> 00:49:36,480
world

1040
00:49:39,510 --> 00:49:38,000
and they have this thing called hollow

1041
00:49:41,829 --> 00:49:39,520
weekends and

1042
00:49:43,510 --> 00:49:41,839
they we went on a thursday night and it

1043
00:49:45,750 --> 00:49:43,520
wasn't that crowded and they had like

1044
00:49:47,910 --> 00:49:45,760
seven different haunted houses

1045
00:49:50,230 --> 00:49:47,920
and they have these actors in full

1046
00:49:51,910 --> 00:49:50,240
makeup and they have what they call

1047
00:49:56,230 --> 00:49:51,920
scare zones

1048
00:49:58,790 --> 00:49:56,240
so it's very dark and and and lit and

1049
00:50:00,150 --> 00:49:58,800
you know you'll be walking along and

1050
00:50:01,910 --> 00:50:00,160
all of a sudden somebody will come on

1051
00:50:03,670 --> 00:50:01,920
you and they're like ah you know and

1052
00:50:06,230 --> 00:50:03,680
they'll jump out and there was one guy

1053
00:50:08,470 --> 00:50:06,240
with like he was doing like a skate

1054
00:50:10,150 --> 00:50:08,480
thing and sparks were flying up and they

1055
00:50:12,790 --> 00:50:10,160
scare the heck out and they'll chase you

1056
00:50:14,790 --> 00:50:12,800
i mean it was fantastic and they did a

1057
00:50:17,030 --> 00:50:14,800
great job so if anybody's in the midwest

1058
00:50:19,750 --> 00:50:17,040
they ever want to do something uh hollow

1059
00:50:22,790 --> 00:50:19,760
weekends at cedar point is a great time

1060
00:50:24,230 --> 00:50:22,800
uh this time of year and uh the thing is

1061
00:50:25,589 --> 00:50:24,240
one of my favorite things we were in one

1062
00:50:27,109 --> 00:50:25,599
of the haunted houses and they put a

1063
00:50:29,190 --> 00:50:27,119
spotlight in front of you there's like a

1064
00:50:30,870 --> 00:50:29,200
red spotlight and a blue spotlight so

1065
00:50:32,630 --> 00:50:30,880
you can't see what's coming and i'm

1066
00:50:35,910 --> 00:50:32,640
telling the girls my girls are adults

1067
00:50:37,750 --> 00:50:35,920
they're 18 and 22 at this point and i'm

1068
00:50:39,829 --> 00:50:37,760
like i can't see you now here i can't

1069
00:50:41,510 --> 00:50:39,839
see and then one of these actors jumps

1070
00:50:44,309 --> 00:50:41,520
out in full makeup right from he says

1071
00:50:47,510 --> 00:50:46,309
and uh you know but that was great that

1072
00:50:49,829 --> 00:50:47,520
was a

1073
00:50:51,270 --> 00:50:49,839
even at their advanced age and my

1074
00:50:54,230 --> 00:50:51,280
advanced age

1075
00:50:55,990 --> 00:50:54,240
that's making memories and yeah that's a

1076
00:50:57,349 --> 00:50:56,000
little more grotesque memory that you

1077
00:50:58,790 --> 00:50:57,359
brought up but i mean that's so

1078
00:51:00,069 --> 00:50:58,800
important whether it's

1079
00:51:02,069 --> 00:51:00,079
halloween

1080
00:51:04,150 --> 00:51:02,079
christmas whatever holidays you

1081
00:51:06,230 --> 00:51:04,160
celebrate but halloween is certainly a

1082
00:51:08,150 --> 00:51:06,240
special thing and something that we've

1083
00:51:10,870 --> 00:51:08,160
always cherished as a family it's just

1084
00:51:14,230 --> 00:51:10,880
it's a heck of a lot of fun now uh i can

1085
00:51:17,109 --> 00:51:14,240
only imagine uh what you've got prepared

1086
00:51:20,470 --> 00:51:17,119
for us tonight and

1087
00:51:22,950 --> 00:51:20,480
um i uh when i whenever i tell a ghost

1088
00:51:27,270 --> 00:51:22,960
story or tell a scary story

1089
00:51:29,750 --> 00:51:27,280
i don't have one that i've been told

1090
00:51:31,270 --> 00:51:29,760
mine are my real experiences

1091
00:51:33,510 --> 00:51:31,280
right right and

1092
00:51:35,349 --> 00:51:33,520
and it's uh

1093
00:51:36,790 --> 00:51:35,359
and and sometimes when i tell the

1094
00:51:38,549 --> 00:51:36,800
stories

1095
00:51:40,870 --> 00:51:38,559
um

1096
00:51:43,750 --> 00:51:40,880
how do i how do i say this right i

1097
00:51:46,950 --> 00:51:43,760
almost don't want it to be my experience

1098
00:51:49,109 --> 00:51:46,960
i'd rather say you know a friend of mine

1099
00:51:51,670 --> 00:51:49,119
had this happen to him

1100
00:51:53,910 --> 00:51:51,680
and and instead of because when it's my

1101
00:51:57,190 --> 00:51:53,920
story it's ah well you know but if it's

1102
00:51:57,910 --> 00:51:57,200
somebody else's story it's scarier

1103
00:52:03,670 --> 00:51:57,920
right

1104
00:52:05,270 --> 00:52:03,680
stories tonight you're going to share

1105
00:52:06,630 --> 00:52:05,280
with us are any of them personal

1106
00:52:08,230 --> 00:52:06,640
experiences

1107
00:52:10,030 --> 00:52:08,240
i can certainly share a couple things

1108
00:52:13,589 --> 00:52:10,040
but i don't really have

1109
00:52:15,430 --> 00:52:13,599
spooky stories i have like near-miss

1110
00:52:16,549 --> 00:52:15,440
stories i have a

1111
00:52:19,030 --> 00:52:16,559
really

1112
00:52:20,870 --> 00:52:19,040
actually the scariest story i have is a

1113
00:52:23,430 --> 00:52:20,880
story where i could have very well been

1114
00:52:25,349 --> 00:52:23,440
killed except for the intervention of

1115
00:52:26,549 --> 00:52:25,359
some kind of guardian angel i think

1116
00:52:28,710 --> 00:52:26,559
would you want to hear that i mean

1117
00:52:30,549 --> 00:52:28,720
that's that's spooky from the standpoint

1118
00:52:32,790 --> 00:52:30,559
if i i could have been murdered

1119
00:52:35,190 --> 00:52:32,800
ruthlessly

1120
00:52:36,710 --> 00:52:35,200
oh wait wait is this the gunshots

1121
00:52:39,270 --> 00:52:36,720
through the front window yeah did i tell

1122
00:52:42,470 --> 00:52:39,280
you this yeah yeah yeah that was a last

1123
00:52:44,150 --> 00:52:42,480
time that's still a great story though i

1124
00:52:46,150 --> 00:52:44,160
couldn't remember if i told you you know

1125
00:52:48,790 --> 00:52:46,160
sometimes it runs together but the the

1126
00:52:51,670 --> 00:52:48,800
the point being that i haven't had like

1127
00:52:53,190 --> 00:52:51,680
incredibly spooky stories like scary

1128
00:52:54,790 --> 00:52:53,200
stories happening i've had poignant

1129
00:52:56,870 --> 00:52:54,800
stuff i've had that

1130
00:52:58,470 --> 00:52:56,880
but then it's made up for by the the

1131
00:53:00,790 --> 00:52:58,480
thousands of people i've talked to who

1132
00:53:01,589 --> 00:53:00,800
have had spooky stories

1133
00:53:03,910 --> 00:53:01,599
well

1134
00:53:05,670 --> 00:53:03,920
let's get let's get it started i almost

1135
00:53:07,910 --> 00:53:05,680
want to turn the lights down i've

1136
00:53:09,990 --> 00:53:07,920
already got sage burning

1137
00:53:13,750 --> 00:53:10,000
over here

1138
00:53:15,589 --> 00:53:13,760
i'm not kidding i saged the studio

1139
00:53:18,470 --> 00:53:15,599
all right let's get started what's uh

1140
00:53:20,150 --> 00:53:18,480
what's tale number one uh honestly you

1141
00:53:21,829 --> 00:53:20,160
know this one just occurred to me i

1142
00:53:23,430 --> 00:53:21,839
haven't told this story for years i've

1143
00:53:26,069 --> 00:53:23,440
got it pulled up in front of me so i can

1144
00:53:28,390 --> 00:53:26,079
recall bits and pieces of it but um you

1145
00:53:29,829 --> 00:53:28,400
were talking about the wrecking crew the

1146
00:53:33,030 --> 00:53:29,839
great uh

1147
00:53:36,549 --> 00:53:33,040
group of musicians who played uh on like

1148
00:53:38,150 --> 00:53:36,559
every pop record of the 60s and and you

1149
00:53:40,069 --> 00:53:38,160
thought it was that band but it was

1150
00:53:42,069 --> 00:53:40,079
actually the vocalists and the wrecking

1151
00:53:43,750 --> 00:53:42,079
crew playing all the instruments you

1152
00:53:45,270 --> 00:53:43,760
know all these guys that come to the

1153
00:53:46,790 --> 00:53:45,280
studio and say hey we're going to play

1154
00:53:48,630 --> 00:53:46,800
it's like no you're not you can sing a

1155
00:53:49,430 --> 00:53:48,640
little bit but these guys are going to

1156
00:53:51,670 --> 00:53:49,440
play

1157
00:53:53,750 --> 00:53:51,680
uh so it made me think about another

1158
00:53:56,390 --> 00:53:53,760
musician who i know when we get to the

1159
00:53:58,150 --> 00:53:56,400
punch line you will know this name and i

1160
00:54:00,230 --> 00:53:58,160
thought it was really kind of a cool

1161
00:54:02,230 --> 00:54:00,240
kind of eerie story and this this goes

1162
00:54:04,470 --> 00:54:02,240
back gosh i think i was told this story

1163
00:54:06,549 --> 00:54:04,480
about 10 years ago but the storyteller

1164
00:54:09,270 --> 00:54:06,559
is still a listener

1165
00:54:11,910 --> 00:54:09,280
and i believe her

1166
00:54:13,829 --> 00:54:11,920
this story goes back to the 1980s she

1167
00:54:15,270 --> 00:54:13,839
was working for a small independent

1168
00:54:17,270 --> 00:54:15,280
record company in pittsburgh called

1169
00:54:19,670 --> 00:54:17,280
bogus records

1170
00:54:21,109 --> 00:54:19,680
and she's a graphic designer

1171
00:54:23,190 --> 00:54:21,119
and carl who was the owner of the

1172
00:54:26,230 --> 00:54:23,200
company was having a summer party for

1173
00:54:27,670 --> 00:54:26,240
some of his employees and talent and he

1174
00:54:31,670 --> 00:54:27,680
he brought them over and they were

1175
00:54:33,750 --> 00:54:31,680
playing uh games and and so forth uh and

1176
00:54:35,670 --> 00:54:33,760
video games he had like real arcade

1177
00:54:37,270 --> 00:54:35,680
games so she said it was a cool party

1178
00:54:38,950 --> 00:54:37,280
you know at that time

1179
00:54:40,789 --> 00:54:38,960
and he said he took us

1180
00:54:42,789 --> 00:54:40,799
to his office and there was a whole wall

1181
00:54:45,109 --> 00:54:42,799
full of head shots of people he'd worked

1182
00:54:47,430 --> 00:54:45,119
with and managed and so forth and after

1183
00:54:49,510 --> 00:54:47,440
the tour he went back down and

1184
00:54:51,430 --> 00:54:49,520
did the party thing this will come back

1185
00:54:54,789 --> 00:54:51,440
into play a little bit later in the

1186
00:54:57,750 --> 00:54:54,799
story so that night she had a dream that

1187
00:55:00,549 --> 00:54:57,760
she was in a local regular record store

1188
00:55:02,309 --> 00:55:00,559
that was near her house but unlike the

1189
00:55:04,950 --> 00:55:02,319
store in real life

1190
00:55:07,670 --> 00:55:04,960
the front area had a lounge area with

1191
00:55:10,150 --> 00:55:07,680
some couches and a coffee table

1192
00:55:12,789 --> 00:55:10,160
and she was in the store looking through

1193
00:55:14,069 --> 00:55:12,799
some vinyl albums and this little man

1194
00:55:15,990 --> 00:55:14,079
comes up to her

1195
00:55:18,870 --> 00:55:16,000
and he starts yelling at her in this

1196
00:55:21,430 --> 00:55:18,880
dream very agitated where is it why

1197
00:55:22,789 --> 00:55:21,440
isn't it done and

1198
00:55:24,549 --> 00:55:22,799
she

1199
00:55:26,230 --> 00:55:24,559
looks at him and says i don't know what

1200
00:55:28,870 --> 00:55:26,240
you're talking about this is all in the

1201
00:55:30,950 --> 00:55:28,880
stream so this old man kind of huffs to

1202
00:55:32,789 --> 00:55:30,960
the front of the store and

1203
00:55:34,390 --> 00:55:32,799
sandy that was our caller follows him

1204
00:55:35,430 --> 00:55:34,400
and he's standing behind one of the

1205
00:55:37,589 --> 00:55:35,440
couches

1206
00:55:38,630 --> 00:55:37,599
and really giving her giving her heck

1207
00:55:40,150 --> 00:55:38,640
for

1208
00:55:42,470 --> 00:55:40,160
you know

1209
00:55:44,710 --> 00:55:42,480
this project not being finished

1210
00:55:45,829 --> 00:55:44,720
so in the dream he listens and in a few

1211
00:55:47,750 --> 00:55:45,839
minutes

1212
00:55:49,670 --> 00:55:47,760
carl the owner of the record company and

1213
00:55:51,430 --> 00:55:49,680
phil who also worked at the studio they

1214
00:55:52,950 --> 00:55:51,440
walk into the store

1215
00:55:54,789 --> 00:55:52,960
and they're standing behind the couch

1216
00:55:58,549 --> 00:55:54,799
nearest the door they exchange greetings

1217
00:56:02,470 --> 00:56:00,789
asks her something and carl and phil

1218
00:56:04,150 --> 00:56:02,480
turn to sandy and say who are you

1219
00:56:06,789 --> 00:56:04,160
talking to

1220
00:56:09,589 --> 00:56:06,799
and uh she looks at them if they're

1221
00:56:11,750 --> 00:56:09,599
crazy and said i'm talking to bull moose

1222
00:56:13,670 --> 00:56:11,760
don't you see him

1223
00:56:17,109 --> 00:56:13,680
and they look at him and said

1224
00:56:19,190 --> 00:56:17,119
well you're nuts boo moos gomus is dead

1225
00:56:20,789 --> 00:56:19,200
that name will probably ring a bell

1226
00:56:23,190 --> 00:56:20,799
uh so

1227
00:56:25,270 --> 00:56:23,200
sandy realized she's seeing this bull

1228
00:56:26,150 --> 00:56:25,280
moose person who she's never even heard

1229
00:56:30,069 --> 00:56:26,160
of

1230
00:56:32,230 --> 00:56:30,079
this is like a special dream she said

1231
00:56:34,870 --> 00:56:32,240
she lucid dreams a lot

1232
00:56:36,710 --> 00:56:34,880
so phil and carl in the dream asked

1233
00:56:39,109 --> 00:56:36,720
sandy what he was saying

1234
00:56:41,109 --> 00:56:39,119
and she says bull moose is very agitated

1235
00:56:43,750 --> 00:56:41,119
and he wants you to finish it and they

1236
00:56:46,309 --> 00:56:43,760
respond with finish what and she wasn't

1237
00:56:48,470 --> 00:56:46,319
really sure but boneless kept saying the

1238
00:56:50,390 --> 00:56:48,480
record the record i want you to finish

1239
00:56:51,510 --> 00:56:50,400
the record

1240
00:56:52,309 --> 00:56:51,520
uh

1241
00:56:54,230 --> 00:56:52,319
so

1242
00:56:56,549 --> 00:56:54,240
anyway

1243
00:56:58,950 --> 00:56:56,559
they go on and on in this dream bulmus

1244
00:57:01,109 --> 00:56:58,960
wants the record finished and she's

1245
00:57:03,030 --> 00:57:01,119
talking to the record owner of the the

1246
00:57:04,870 --> 00:57:03,040
record company saying you know bull most

1247
00:57:06,870 --> 00:57:04,880
wants is finished so that was the end of

1248
00:57:10,069 --> 00:57:06,880
the dream

1249
00:57:12,870 --> 00:57:10,079
sitting on a corner on a stool singing

1250
00:57:14,470 --> 00:57:12,880
her a sweet little lullaby the next

1251
00:57:16,630 --> 00:57:14,480
morning she wrote up

1252
00:57:19,190 --> 00:57:16,640
everything that happened some titles of

1253
00:57:20,950 --> 00:57:19,200
some songs that came out in the dream

1254
00:57:23,670 --> 00:57:20,960
and so forth

1255
00:57:25,750 --> 00:57:23,680
and she knew it was an important dream

1256
00:57:27,750 --> 00:57:25,760
and about two weeks later she's working

1257
00:57:30,150 --> 00:57:27,760
with this phil guy on some poster

1258
00:57:31,730 --> 00:57:30,160
designs at the record company

1259
00:57:33,030 --> 00:57:31,740
and

1260
00:57:34,710 --> 00:57:33,040
[Music]

1261
00:57:36,309 --> 00:57:34,720
she wanted to tell him

1262
00:57:38,870 --> 00:57:36,319
the story she couldn't remember it all

1263
00:57:40,789 --> 00:57:38,880
but as she

1264
00:57:43,750 --> 00:57:40,799
she went up the stairs with him she

1265
00:57:45,829 --> 00:57:43,760
realized on the wall of head shots she

1266
00:57:48,549 --> 00:57:45,839
said there is a man

1267
00:57:51,270 --> 00:57:48,559
and a little african-american gentleman

1268
00:57:54,470 --> 00:57:51,280
and i had with big glasses and long face

1269
00:57:55,349 --> 00:57:54,480
and his name is pulse bull something

1270
00:57:57,750 --> 00:57:55,359
and

1271
00:58:00,549 --> 00:57:57,760
she asked phil she said is he dead

1272
00:58:03,270 --> 00:58:00,559
and phil said yeah why do you ask

1273
00:58:05,109 --> 00:58:03,280
and sandy said because he wants you to

1274
00:58:06,950 --> 00:58:05,119
know he wants that record done and phil

1275
00:58:10,549 --> 00:58:06,960
was like what are you talking about so

1276
00:58:11,990 --> 00:58:10,559
she she related the dream and this phil

1277
00:58:13,589 --> 00:58:12,000
um

1278
00:58:15,109 --> 00:58:13,599
said do you remember the title of the

1279
00:58:17,510 --> 00:58:15,119
songs that you said that needed to be

1280
00:58:19,990 --> 00:58:17,520
finished and she told them and when she

1281
00:58:21,030 --> 00:58:20,000
did phil turned white as a sheet

1282
00:58:23,510 --> 00:58:21,040
because

1283
00:58:25,030 --> 00:58:23,520
he said who told you that how do you

1284
00:58:27,430 --> 00:58:25,040
know that

1285
00:58:30,230 --> 00:58:27,440
and it turned out that this bull moose

1286
00:58:32,549 --> 00:58:30,240
came to her in a dream and gave her the

1287
00:58:34,710 --> 00:58:32,559
names of the songs that were finished

1288
00:58:37,910 --> 00:58:34,720
and wanted to know and it turned out

1289
00:58:39,910 --> 00:58:37,920
that there was really a record that had

1290
00:58:40,950 --> 00:58:39,920
not been completed

1291
00:58:43,030 --> 00:58:40,960
and

1292
00:58:45,030 --> 00:58:43,040
long story short

1293
00:58:47,670 --> 00:58:45,040
she talks to carl

1294
00:58:50,150 --> 00:58:47,680
uh the owner and

1295
00:58:51,510 --> 00:58:50,160
he he freaks he freaks out because like

1296
00:58:53,829 --> 00:58:51,520
how did you know

1297
00:58:56,789 --> 00:58:53,839
so they end up finishing the record and

1298
00:58:57,990 --> 00:58:56,799
on the day they have the release party

1299
00:59:01,109 --> 00:58:58,000
she

1300
00:59:03,670 --> 00:59:01,119
just felt this like sense of lift

1301
00:59:04,950 --> 00:59:03,680
like bull moose had kind of like was

1302
00:59:06,870 --> 00:59:04,960
thanking her

1303
00:59:10,789 --> 00:59:06,880
it was bull moose jackson

1304
00:59:13,349 --> 00:59:10,799
if you know the song big 10 inch record

1305
00:59:16,069 --> 00:59:13,359
he's a very famous r b guy

1306
00:59:20,789 --> 00:59:16,079
and this woman who had never heard of

1307
00:59:22,549 --> 00:59:20,799
him in his life uh or in her life um

1308
00:59:24,549 --> 00:59:22,559
channeled him basically channeled him

1309
00:59:25,990 --> 00:59:24,559
through a dream and

1310
00:59:29,109 --> 00:59:26,000
kind of pushed them to i think to

1311
00:59:30,710 --> 00:59:29,119
finishing that record it's it's really a

1312
00:59:52,549 --> 00:59:30,720
a

1313
00:59:55,270 --> 00:59:52,559
big ten inch by

1314
00:59:57,990 --> 00:59:55,280
yeah aerosmith

1315
01:00:01,829 --> 00:59:58,000
yeah there's that but the original the

1316
01:00:03,670 --> 01:00:01,839
original song is the big 10 inch record

1317
01:00:04,950 --> 01:00:03,680
by boneless jackson and then he had

1318
01:00:07,109 --> 01:00:04,960
another it was the kind of this like

1319
01:00:09,510 --> 01:00:07,119
double entendre genre that was very

1320
01:00:10,549 --> 01:00:09,520
popular i think like in the 40s with r b

1321
01:00:12,390 --> 01:00:10,559
artists

1322
01:00:14,230 --> 01:00:12,400
i'd name some other

1323
01:00:15,990 --> 01:00:14,240
you know i'd named some other titles but

1324
01:00:19,349 --> 01:00:16,000
i want to stay to broadcast standards

1325
01:00:22,870 --> 01:00:20,870
but the thought being

1326
01:00:24,789 --> 01:00:22,880
i just think it's so cool

1327
01:00:26,309 --> 01:00:24,799
i believe now i'd be interested in your

1328
01:00:27,910 --> 01:00:26,319
thought on this i'll turn the tables on

1329
01:00:30,710 --> 01:00:27,920
you what do you think about the dream

1330
01:00:33,510 --> 01:00:30,720
state i think that we are

1331
01:00:35,750 --> 01:00:33,520
the veil is thinner and things can be

1332
01:00:37,190 --> 01:00:35,760
revealed to us not that every dream is

1333
01:00:39,109 --> 01:00:37,200
meaningful you know you go to the

1334
01:00:41,430 --> 01:00:39,119
grocery store and then the next night

1335
01:00:43,349 --> 01:00:41,440
you think you're you dream that you're

1336
01:00:44,230 --> 01:00:43,359
flying on a banana

1337
01:00:45,589 --> 01:00:44,240
but

1338
01:00:47,589 --> 01:00:45,599
sometimes

1339
01:00:49,190 --> 01:00:47,599
meaningful stuff comes through and the

1340
01:00:51,510 --> 01:00:49,200
veil is thinner what do you think i

1341
01:00:54,150 --> 01:00:51,520
think if you pay attention

1342
01:00:57,510 --> 01:00:54,160
right pay attention and and try to

1343
01:00:58,950 --> 01:00:57,520
remember your dreams uh there is

1344
01:01:01,670 --> 01:00:58,960
something there

1345
01:01:04,789 --> 01:01:01,680
and you have to pay attention

1346
01:01:05,670 --> 01:01:04,799
so many uh jim as you know

1347
01:01:07,510 --> 01:01:05,680
uh

1348
01:01:09,670 --> 01:01:07,520
don't don't pay attention to the

1349
01:01:11,030 --> 01:01:09,680
fantastical they don't pay attention to

1350
01:01:15,030 --> 01:01:11,040
these things

1351
01:01:17,030 --> 01:01:15,040
and life to them is just a 2d experience

1352
01:01:19,589 --> 01:01:17,040
and and there isn't anything special and

1353
01:01:20,789 --> 01:01:19,599
then there are those out there that pay

1354
01:01:22,470 --> 01:01:20,799
attention

1355
01:01:25,030 --> 01:01:22,480
and if you do

1356
01:01:27,670 --> 01:01:25,040
you will see your brain

1357
01:01:30,789 --> 01:01:27,680
um controls you

1358
01:01:33,349 --> 01:01:30,799
a lot of people think that uh we

1359
01:01:36,230 --> 01:01:33,359
we are in control of ourselves our brain

1360
01:01:39,349 --> 01:01:36,240
is making decisions for us minutes in

1361
01:01:41,510 --> 01:01:39,359
advance you think it's free will right

1362
01:01:43,829 --> 01:01:41,520
there are things that happen and your

1363
01:01:46,309 --> 01:01:43,839
brain is in control so

1364
01:01:48,549 --> 01:01:46,319
your brain is sending you messages uh

1365
01:01:51,349 --> 01:01:48,559
it's connected to the universe

1366
01:01:53,430 --> 01:01:51,359
and and your dreams have meaning

1367
01:01:55,589 --> 01:01:53,440
and you just have to pay attention i

1368
01:01:58,710 --> 01:01:55,599
just pulled it up big ten inch record

1369
01:02:00,950 --> 01:01:58,720
also known as big ten inch uh record of

1370
01:02:02,789 --> 01:02:00,960
the blues is a rhythm and blues song

1371
01:02:05,750 --> 01:02:02,799
written by

1372
01:02:09,589 --> 01:02:05,760
fred wisemantle it was first recorded in

1373
01:02:11,589 --> 01:02:09,599
1952 by bull moose jackson and released

1374
01:02:14,230 --> 01:02:11,599
by king records the song was later

1375
01:02:17,109 --> 01:02:14,240
covered by aerosmith and released as

1376
01:02:20,150 --> 01:02:17,119
part of their 1975 album toys in the

1377
01:02:24,710 --> 01:02:20,160
attic is it has been rated as one of the

1378
01:02:26,309 --> 01:02:24,720
best double entendres songs of all time

1379
01:02:28,950 --> 01:02:26,319
with that let's take our break right

1380
01:02:31,430 --> 01:02:28,960
here our guest tonight jim harold it's

1381
01:02:33,510 --> 01:02:31,440
halloween ghost stories happy halloween

1382
01:02:34,870 --> 01:02:33,520
everybody we'll be right back after this

1383
01:02:36,549 --> 01:02:34,880
short break

1384
01:02:39,349 --> 01:02:36,559
this is fade to black i'm your jimmy

1385
01:02:41,589 --> 01:02:39,359
church i'm kj cr and the game changer

1386
01:02:43,990 --> 01:02:41,599
network and as of sunday night

1387
01:02:46,549 --> 01:02:44,000
the on x network

1388
01:02:49,430 --> 01:02:46,559
that's right october 31st halloween

1389
01:02:51,109 --> 01:02:49,440
night annex network kicks off we'll be

1390
01:02:52,789 --> 01:02:51,119
right back more with jim harold and his

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host of the paranormal podcast and you

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know this is the thing um

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as as we continue here jim

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what what do you prefer

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do you lean on the paranormal podcast or

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are you more of a campfire guy these

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days

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it's evolved uh i used to be a

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paranormal podcast guy

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but the more i get into it and the

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longer that i do it i

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like the stories uh i i because it's

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always something that will surprise you

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like uh you know we've both been doing

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this for quite a while but people will

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come across with a story that'll kind of

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be mind-blowing and it actually plays

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into the next story i was going to tell

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you

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sit back and go whoa

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and and it and a lot of times it's not a

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traditional ghost story it's not kind of

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what you expect

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it's just one of those things that

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happen

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not when you're ghost hunting or

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anything necessarily but you're going

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through the course of your daily life

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and something grabs you by the scruff of

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your neck and says look at this

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look at this and it leaves you with a

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huge question mark many times

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um

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and and you know i could have an evening

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where i have just you know kind of

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normal calls you know a past loved one

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communicated with me i think i have a

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ghost in my house and then someone zing

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will hit you with one of those stories

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and that's what keeps me coming back but

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i would say between the two now i still

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enjoy doing the paranormal podcast which

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are straight interviews with authors and

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experts and things enjoy that very much

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but i think campfire for me is where

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it's at

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and uh it's it's it's so much fun

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i uh not only listening to you uh but i

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i went through

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probably almost a couple of years where

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instead of listening

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to

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uh and i do a lot of my research at

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night listening to something on egypt or

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or physics or what have you ufos

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i went through a weird thing of of of

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ghost stories

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at night

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and i would you know i would just turn

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it on

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and and close my eyes and get sucked

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into these stories

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and and i i did it for a couple of years

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every single night and it really

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causes for some interesting dreams

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i guess so

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you know

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i always have believed that there's more

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to life than

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you know i often say what you can weigh

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on a scale measure in a test tube

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but it's really affirmed to me

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it sounds good but it's really true

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there's a lot more going on i mean some

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of the stories you've shared with me

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about what that one incident in

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indianapolis just the nature of reality

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and in one one i'll share with you if

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it's okay

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is

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some ways than any ghost story

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this story was about a woman it's a very

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short story she went um

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for a job interview or something to a

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downtown metropolitan area

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and she

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she

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walked out of her meeting

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and all of a sudden

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she sees a construction worker come off

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of a high-rise building there's a their

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scaffolding and stuff they're doing work

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he falls off and in front of her eyes he

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apparently falls to his death

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and there's this huge crash

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and

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rubbing her eyes kind of does this thing

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and she looks

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and there's nothing there

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it's about 12 noon

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nobody's reacting she looks there's

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nobody there but she's convinced that

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she just saw

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a construction worker plunged to their

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death

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so she goes home she's very

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upset she's concerned

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um

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you know she she's worried uh she

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watches the you know tries to have

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dinner she watches the news at six

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o'clock there's no mention of it

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so you know just bill wilder's her all

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evening

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eleven o'clock news comes on

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and remember what she saw happened at

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noon

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tragic story from the downtown area

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today a construction worker

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plunged to his death today at 3 p.m

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oh

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same place

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same building

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[Music]

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she saw it three hours before it

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happened oh

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oh

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hello

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01:12:52,390 --> 01:12:49,440
i mean what do you do with that

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01:12:54,790 --> 01:12:52,400
what do you do with that i um

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01:12:57,510 --> 01:12:54,800
it's interesting uh that you tell the

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01:13:00,630 --> 01:12:57,520
story tonight a couple of months ago

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01:13:04,790 --> 01:13:00,640
i'm uh hosting a a conference

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01:13:05,830 --> 01:13:04,800
uh at the lax hilton in in here in los

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angeles

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01:13:11,350 --> 01:13:08,800
and if you know the hilton it's uh it's

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20 30 stories tall uh they have two

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towers

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always get this the same room uh each

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01:13:23,590 --> 01:13:20,560
year out there

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01:13:26,470 --> 01:13:23,600
uh that opens up it has sliding glass

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01:13:27,750 --> 01:13:26,480
doors opens up to this courtyard

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01:13:30,470 --> 01:13:27,760
and uh

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01:13:31,910 --> 01:13:30,480
and i've got a table out there and i'm

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able to sit out there especially in the

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01:13:36,149 --> 01:13:33,840
mornings have my coffee

1643
01:13:39,430 --> 01:13:36,159
and and you know plan out the day and

1644
01:13:40,870 --> 01:13:39,440
and get ready so i'm sitting out there

1645
01:13:44,390 --> 01:13:40,880
and i hear

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01:13:47,110 --> 01:13:44,400
some noise above my head and it was

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01:13:48,790 --> 01:13:47,120
strange like clanking and stuff and you

1648
01:13:51,030 --> 01:13:48,800
know it's really quiet out there and i

1649
01:13:53,189 --> 01:13:51,040
just turn around i look up

1650
01:13:56,229 --> 01:13:53,199
and there's dudes on the scaffolding

1651
01:13:57,510 --> 01:13:56,239
cleaning the windows way up to like 15

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01:13:59,830 --> 01:13:57,520
stories up

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01:14:01,750 --> 01:13:59,840
and i looked at him for a minute jim on

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01:14:03,030 --> 01:14:01,760
everything that i love

1655
01:14:04,550 --> 01:14:03,040
i'm looking

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01:14:06,630 --> 01:14:04,560
i'm like

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01:14:09,669 --> 01:14:06,640
i don't want to be here for this right

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01:14:11,110 --> 01:14:09,679
right i just don't

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01:14:14,630 --> 01:14:11,120
no

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walked in

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01:14:19,830 --> 01:14:17,679
to my hotel room shut the door

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01:14:22,149 --> 01:14:19,840
and and i just didn't dig it i didn't

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01:14:24,310 --> 01:14:22,159
want to be that lady

1664
01:14:25,750 --> 01:14:24,320
right and it was just just something

1665
01:14:29,270 --> 01:14:25,760
weird about it

1666
01:14:31,910 --> 01:14:29,280
and uh oh oh oh here's the lead into the

1667
01:14:33,910 --> 01:14:31,920
story this is the the best part

1668
01:14:36,390 --> 01:14:33,920
when that morning i wake up i open up

1669
01:14:37,990 --> 01:14:36,400
the door and i walk and there's caution

1670
01:14:39,430 --> 01:14:38,000
tape

1671
01:14:43,430 --> 01:14:39,440
stretched out

1672
01:14:45,669 --> 01:14:43,440
and around and they were above my uh

1673
01:14:48,149 --> 01:14:45,679
hotel room and i just i thought what's

1674
01:14:50,390 --> 01:14:48,159
the construction uh no i mean police

1675
01:14:52,229 --> 01:14:50,400
tape you know the red uh the yellow

1676
01:14:55,110 --> 01:14:52,239
caution and i just

1677
01:14:57,990 --> 01:14:55,120
walk under it and go sit down and it was

1678
01:14:59,590 --> 01:14:58,000
there outside of my hotel room

1679
01:15:01,590 --> 01:14:59,600
and that's when i looked up and i looked

1680
01:15:03,830 --> 01:15:01,600
down at the caution tape and i was like

1681
01:15:04,870 --> 01:15:03,840
this is this is

1682
01:15:10,630 --> 01:15:04,880
this is

1683
01:15:12,630 --> 01:15:10,640
they've already got the caution tape out

1684
01:15:14,390 --> 01:15:12,640
and uh no i'm not i'm not doing this and

1685
01:15:17,189 --> 01:15:14,400
i walked back in

1686
01:15:19,189 --> 01:15:17,199
and and and and and shut the sliding

1687
01:15:21,990 --> 01:15:19,199
glass door and i really

1688
01:15:24,149 --> 01:15:22,000
uh not quite hyperventilated

1689
01:15:26,470 --> 01:15:24,159
but it just seemed like it was a setup

1690
01:15:29,189 --> 01:15:26,480
for something very bad

1691
01:15:30,950 --> 01:15:29,199
and uh and i didn't want to be that lady

1692
01:15:32,149 --> 01:15:30,960
but what do you what you know how did

1693
01:15:33,030 --> 01:15:32,159
she

1694
01:15:36,229 --> 01:15:33,040
uh

1695
01:15:38,630 --> 01:15:36,239
how did she change after that

1696
01:15:41,270 --> 01:15:38,640
did you talk to her well this was

1697
01:15:43,270 --> 01:15:41,280
actually um the person that happened to

1698
01:15:44,630 --> 01:15:43,280
her mother so i did not ask that

1699
01:15:46,550 --> 01:15:44,640
question i did not probe in that

1700
01:15:49,510 --> 01:15:46,560
direction maybe i should have

1701
01:15:51,270 --> 01:15:49,520
but the thing was is that

1702
01:15:53,750 --> 01:15:51,280
i don't think you could ever look at

1703
01:15:57,030 --> 01:15:53,760
life the same no

1704
01:15:58,149 --> 01:15:57,040
no no no never look at the if you and

1705
01:16:00,310 --> 01:15:58,159
and i'm sure you've had the same

1706
01:16:02,310 --> 01:16:00,320
experience jimmy when people have these

1707
01:16:04,830 --> 01:16:02,320
experiences something like this or

1708
01:16:06,709 --> 01:16:04,840
something with a ufo or something with a

1709
01:16:07,910 --> 01:16:06,719
ghost

1710
01:16:10,229 --> 01:16:07,920
they say

1711
01:16:12,550 --> 01:16:10,239
universally i know what i saw

1712
01:16:15,590 --> 01:16:12,560
and it really changes your life because

1713
01:16:17,110 --> 01:16:15,600
it basically wipes away that whole

1714
01:16:19,350 --> 01:16:17,120
well there's nothing to any of this

1715
01:16:21,830 --> 01:16:19,360
stuff because you know because you've

1716
01:16:23,669 --> 01:16:21,840
experienced it and you know even

1717
01:16:25,189 --> 01:16:23,679
skeptics you know they'll say well i

1718
01:16:27,510 --> 01:16:25,199
don't believe in this stuff but this one

1719
01:16:29,750 --> 01:16:27,520
time this happened and i think that

1720
01:16:32,550 --> 01:16:29,760
having that personal experience

1721
01:16:34,149 --> 01:16:32,560
uh positive or negative is really

1722
01:16:36,470 --> 01:16:34,159
life-changing and i think that's why a

1723
01:16:38,709 --> 01:16:36,480
show like campfire is pretty powerful

1724
01:16:40,229 --> 01:16:38,719
in other shows that do the same thing

1725
01:16:42,310 --> 01:16:40,239
because

1726
01:16:44,630 --> 01:16:42,320
these are really life-changing events

1727
01:16:45,910 --> 01:16:44,640
for the people who experience them

1728
01:16:49,030 --> 01:16:45,920
i uh

1729
01:16:51,270 --> 01:16:49,040
i want to get to the next story um but

1730
01:16:54,070 --> 01:16:51,280
you know the premonition

1731
01:16:57,830 --> 01:16:54,080
thing i think there's something to it

1732
01:16:59,350 --> 01:16:57,840
i i know that there is and i was uh i

1733
01:17:01,510 --> 01:16:59,360
was driving

1734
01:17:03,030 --> 01:17:01,520
near my home in burbank this is a couple

1735
01:17:04,070 --> 01:17:03,040
of years ago

1736
01:17:04,950 --> 01:17:04,080
and

1737
01:17:07,430 --> 01:17:04,960
uh

1738
01:17:10,229 --> 01:17:07,440
just a couple of blocks from my home and

1739
01:17:13,510 --> 01:17:10,239
and i'm pulling up to this intersection

1740
01:17:15,189 --> 01:17:13,520
and the light turns green

1741
01:17:17,669 --> 01:17:15,199
and i'm getting ready to drive through

1742
01:17:20,709 --> 01:17:17,679
the intersection and to the right

1743
01:17:21,669 --> 01:17:20,719
on the corner is a man and a woman

1744
01:17:23,350 --> 01:17:21,679
and

1745
01:17:25,830 --> 01:17:23,360
they

1746
01:17:27,910 --> 01:17:25,840
went to step into the street

1747
01:17:29,189 --> 01:17:27,920
on the green light right into the

1748
01:17:31,590 --> 01:17:29,199
crosswalk

1749
01:17:33,830 --> 01:17:31,600
and i hit my brakes

1750
01:17:37,110 --> 01:17:33,840
and to let them and they step back on

1751
01:17:38,550 --> 01:17:37,120
the curb as i hit the brakes

1752
01:17:41,750 --> 01:17:38,560
at that moment

1753
01:17:42,870 --> 01:17:41,760
this white pickup truck ran the red

1754
01:17:46,229 --> 01:17:42,880
light

1755
01:17:48,310 --> 01:17:46,239
and and went right through it and

1756
01:17:50,950 --> 01:17:48,320
i i thought to myself

1757
01:17:53,030 --> 01:17:50,960
okay so first off you're angry right oh

1758
01:17:54,390 --> 01:17:53,040
what a doofus man ran the red light you

1759
01:17:57,270 --> 01:17:54,400
know

1760
01:17:59,830 --> 01:17:57,280
um and i and i continued he drives

1761
01:18:03,430 --> 01:17:59,840
through and i drive through and as i got

1762
01:18:05,590 --> 01:18:03,440
to the other side i thought to myself

1763
01:18:09,669 --> 01:18:05,600
they saved my life

1764
01:18:11,750 --> 01:18:09,679
now wait a minute here did they was this

1765
01:18:14,470 --> 01:18:11,760
was this something more cosmic was there

1766
01:18:16,550 --> 01:18:14,480
something more to this

1767
01:18:18,709 --> 01:18:16,560
than meets the eye

1768
01:18:20,229 --> 01:18:18,719
right they

1769
01:18:22,149 --> 01:18:20,239
they don't know this guy is running the

1770
01:18:25,590 --> 01:18:22,159
light they want to cross in the

1771
01:18:28,630 --> 01:18:25,600
crosswalk i'm pulling up they step you

1772
01:18:29,990 --> 01:18:28,640
know it the story just tells itself

1773
01:18:32,390 --> 01:18:30,000
right and

1774
01:18:35,270 --> 01:18:32,400
and i drove away from that thinking to

1775
01:18:36,870 --> 01:18:35,280
myself somebody just

1776
01:18:39,669 --> 01:18:36,880
intervened

1777
01:18:42,229 --> 01:18:39,679
right and and and all of that that's a

1778
01:18:43,990 --> 01:18:42,239
premonition thing this is in advance of

1779
01:18:46,310 --> 01:18:44,000
the real event

1780
01:18:48,790 --> 01:18:46,320
and what does the universe know

1781
01:18:52,870 --> 01:18:48,800
you know and and and how is all of this

1782
01:18:54,390 --> 01:18:52,880
uh connected and so i took the time jim

1783
01:18:56,550 --> 01:18:54,400
to stop and think about it to

1784
01:18:57,590 --> 01:18:56,560
contemplate the significance of the

1785
01:18:59,669 --> 01:18:57,600
event

1786
01:19:02,070 --> 01:18:59,679
so many out there don't

1787
01:19:06,149 --> 01:19:02,080
right they would just keep driving not

1788
01:19:08,709 --> 01:19:06,159
think about it and and and life goes on

1789
01:19:11,110 --> 01:19:08,719
that's not the way it works for me and

1790
01:19:13,590 --> 01:19:11,120
like the lady that saw uh you know

1791
01:19:15,910 --> 01:19:13,600
somebody fall off the scaffolding

1792
01:19:17,430 --> 01:19:15,920
um that you know you need to take a

1793
01:19:19,350 --> 01:19:17,440
minute to stop and think about the

1794
01:19:22,070 --> 01:19:19,360
significance of the event it's it's

1795
01:19:24,790 --> 01:19:22,080
life-changing i i do have another ghost

1796
01:19:26,470 --> 01:19:24,800
story coming up but i i i or spooky

1797
01:19:27,669 --> 01:19:26,480
scary story but i just have to tell

1798
01:19:29,990 --> 01:19:27,679
something we're talking about this it

1799
01:19:32,149 --> 01:19:30,000
reminds me of synchronicities and i was

1800
01:19:34,790 --> 01:19:32,159
just mentioning to my daughter today

1801
01:19:37,110 --> 01:19:34,800
as i was taking her to her job

1802
01:19:38,550 --> 01:19:37,120
i had a weird synchronicity uh about a

1803
01:19:41,030 --> 01:19:38,560
week or two ago

1804
01:19:43,350 --> 01:19:41,040
uh you know richard cyran i'm sure

1805
01:19:45,030 --> 01:19:43,360
and i listen to his shows as i listen to

1806
01:19:46,630 --> 01:19:45,040
your shows occasionally you don't have

1807
01:19:48,149 --> 01:19:46,640
time to listen every episode of every

1808
01:19:51,030 --> 01:19:48,159
show but i like to tune in and see what

1809
01:19:53,030 --> 01:19:51,040
the other great hosts are doing

1810
01:19:58,950 --> 01:19:53,040
and i

1811
01:20:00,870 --> 01:19:58,960
topic was synchronicity

1812
01:20:02,310 --> 01:20:00,880
and i'm like oh i love synchronicities

1813
01:20:03,590 --> 01:20:02,320
that's one of my favorite things who's a

1814
01:20:04,340 --> 01:20:03,600
guest

1815
01:20:08,950 --> 01:20:04,350
jim harold

1816
01:20:13,430 --> 01:20:12,470
oh man that's awesome uh i i i'm like

1817
01:20:15,430 --> 01:20:13,440
whoa

1818
01:20:16,470 --> 01:20:15,440
because it was a repeat it was like mind

1819
01:20:17,910 --> 01:20:16,480
blown

1820
01:20:20,870 --> 01:20:17,920
sync with that's the ultimate

1821
01:20:22,709 --> 01:20:20,880
synchronicity that's awesome man

1822
01:20:24,310 --> 01:20:22,719
i haven't even told richard that i've

1823
01:20:26,310 --> 01:20:24,320
got it i've got to send him a note and

1824
01:20:28,950 --> 01:20:26,320
tell him that that's pretty cool man

1825
01:20:31,189 --> 01:20:28,960
that's pretty cool all right what's next

1826
01:20:33,910 --> 01:20:31,199
uh well this one goes way back in the

1827
01:20:36,950 --> 01:20:33,920
archives and you know i'm a big

1828
01:20:39,669 --> 01:20:36,960
believer in the idea of haunted objects

1829
01:20:41,990 --> 01:20:39,679
and this goes back to and we've had

1830
01:20:44,470 --> 01:20:42,000
multiple we've had a famous mirror story

1831
01:20:46,709 --> 01:20:44,480
we've had a painting story and this is

1832
01:20:49,030 --> 01:20:46,719
like the original painting story not the

1833
01:20:50,950 --> 01:20:49,040
road house saloon story that that many

1834
01:20:54,470 --> 01:20:50,960
of our listeners will know but this one

1835
01:20:56,310 --> 01:20:54,480
that happened probably 2009 2010 i think

1836
01:20:59,030 --> 01:20:56,320
it was in my second book

1837
01:21:00,390 --> 01:20:59,040
and this was from jay in california and

1838
01:21:03,430 --> 01:21:00,400
he told this story

1839
01:21:07,590 --> 01:21:03,440
uh about when he was a kid

1840
01:21:09,750 --> 01:21:07,600
his mom went when he was very young

1841
01:21:15,189 --> 01:21:09,760
to an estate sale

1842
01:21:17,270 --> 01:21:15,199
and uh bought a painting now uh i guess

1843
01:21:20,629 --> 01:21:17,280
his mom and his dad were estranged so it

1844
01:21:23,910 --> 01:21:20,639
was just the mom and him and his sister

1845
01:21:25,990 --> 01:21:23,920
and they lived with their mom's friend

1846
01:21:29,750 --> 01:21:26,000
uh and their their child so i think

1847
01:21:31,189 --> 01:21:29,760
there were three kids so um

1848
01:21:33,830 --> 01:21:31,199
she went and bought this painting and

1849
01:21:36,149 --> 01:21:33,840
she said when she went to this estate

1850
01:21:38,229 --> 01:21:36,159
sale his place was kind of spooky it was

1851
01:21:41,430 --> 01:21:38,239
in san francisco

1852
01:21:44,550 --> 01:21:41,440
and he said it wasn't satanic per se but

1853
01:21:46,149 --> 01:21:44,560
it was uh kind of on the dark side but

1854
01:21:47,510 --> 01:21:46,159
it didn't stop her from buying this one

1855
01:21:49,350 --> 01:21:47,520
painting she thought was beautiful it

1856
01:21:51,590 --> 01:21:49,360
portrayed a lady with blonde hair

1857
01:21:52,709 --> 01:21:51,600
sitting on her rocking chair in a white

1858
01:21:54,550 --> 01:21:52,719
gown

1859
01:21:56,709 --> 01:21:54,560
and her

1860
01:21:59,590 --> 01:21:56,719
his mom loved it brought it home found a

1861
01:22:01,510 --> 01:21:59,600
place to put it and ended up hanging it

1862
01:22:03,350 --> 01:22:01,520
on the wall between the upstairs and

1863
01:22:05,189 --> 01:22:03,360
downstairs

1864
01:22:07,830 --> 01:22:05,199
then all of a sudden the painting

1865
01:22:10,790 --> 01:22:07,840
started falling off the wall

1866
01:22:13,350 --> 01:22:10,800
and it happened several times and the

1867
01:22:14,629 --> 01:22:13,360
thing was is that the nail was put in

1868
01:22:17,110 --> 01:22:14,639
you know when you hang a picture you put

1869
01:22:19,030 --> 01:22:17,120
it in at an angle so it won't fall off

1870
01:22:20,149 --> 01:22:19,040
and they put it in it would seem to be

1871
01:22:22,229 --> 01:22:20,159
solid

1872
01:22:24,229 --> 01:22:22,239
and it would fall off

1873
01:22:27,990 --> 01:22:24,239
she rema he remembers during a party

1874
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,629
so anyway

1875
01:22:35,830 --> 01:22:32,550
after they have this painting a while

1876
01:22:38,629 --> 01:22:35,840
they start to hear weird noises like

1877
01:22:40,790 --> 01:22:38,639
a faucet dripping drip drip drip drip at

1878
01:22:41,910 --> 01:22:40,800
night which it never

1879
01:22:44,229 --> 01:22:41,920
never did

1880
01:22:46,070 --> 01:22:44,239
and that's happened for a few days and

1881
01:22:48,229 --> 01:22:46,080
then after a few days after this party

1882
01:22:49,110 --> 01:22:48,239
things really started to get interesting

1883
01:22:51,270 --> 01:22:49,120
um

1884
01:22:52,470 --> 01:22:51,280
all of them especially the kids starting

1885
01:22:53,750 --> 01:22:52,480
about

1886
01:22:56,390 --> 01:22:53,760
two or three in the morning they would

1887
01:22:58,870 --> 01:22:56,400
hear a lady in the downstairs crying

1888
01:23:00,310 --> 01:22:58,880
really softly softly they didn't know

1889
01:23:02,470 --> 01:23:00,320
how to take it

1890
01:23:04,149 --> 01:23:02,480
they didn't know who it was

1891
01:23:05,990 --> 01:23:04,159
um

1892
01:23:08,550 --> 01:23:06,000
the first time it happened both the moms

1893
01:23:09,990 --> 01:23:08,560
came to the room with the kids made sure

1894
01:23:12,550 --> 01:23:10,000
they were okay

1895
01:23:15,590 --> 01:23:12,560
it's like um it mellowed out it's okay

1896
01:23:18,709 --> 01:23:15,600
next night it happened again

1897
01:23:20,629 --> 01:23:18,719
this time the crying was a little louder

1898
01:23:22,070 --> 01:23:20,639
the crying was coming from downstairs it

1899
01:23:24,149 --> 01:23:22,080
wasn't any

1900
01:23:26,709 --> 01:23:24,159
person in the upstairs not the kids not

1901
01:23:27,590 --> 01:23:26,719
the not the two moms

1902
01:23:31,189 --> 01:23:27,600
uh

1903
01:23:33,350 --> 01:23:31,199
the crying was moaning and sobbing

1904
01:23:35,350 --> 01:23:33,360
jay uh said that he envisioned this

1905
01:23:37,110 --> 01:23:35,360
figure is maybe with her hands on her

1906
01:23:38,390 --> 01:23:37,120
eyes crying looking down into her lap

1907
01:23:40,470 --> 01:23:38,400
that's the kind of crying it was

1908
01:23:42,229 --> 01:23:40,480
somebody was inconsolable

1909
01:23:44,390 --> 01:23:42,239
a few nights went by

1910
01:23:45,750 --> 01:23:44,400
and they really got scared because it

1911
01:23:47,830 --> 01:23:45,760
happened again

1912
01:23:49,510 --> 01:23:47,840
and at this point the two moms are

1913
01:23:50,709 --> 01:23:49,520
really scared they knew it was going to

1914
01:23:52,149 --> 01:23:50,719
keep happening

1915
01:23:53,990 --> 01:23:52,159
and about a week later it got to the

1916
01:23:56,149 --> 01:23:54,000
point where the crying was incredibly

1917
01:23:58,310 --> 01:23:56,159
loud it started out soft and it got

1918
01:24:00,950 --> 01:23:58,320
louder and louder and then it just went

1919
01:24:02,629 --> 01:24:00,960
explosive it was so loud jay said that

1920
01:24:04,709 --> 01:24:02,639
you could literally feel the crying

1921
01:24:06,870 --> 01:24:04,719
through the walls just like a woman was

1922
01:24:08,629 --> 01:24:06,880
crying and bawling your eyes out

1923
01:24:09,830 --> 01:24:08,639
at that point it got too much for the

1924
01:24:11,750 --> 01:24:09,840
two moms

1925
01:24:13,750 --> 01:24:11,760
so they

1926
01:24:15,350 --> 01:24:13,760
went into action they grabbed all the

1927
01:24:17,830 --> 01:24:15,360
kids

1928
01:24:19,750 --> 01:24:17,840
and they said something's going on in

1929
01:24:21,430 --> 01:24:19,760
this house and we're getting out of here

1930
01:24:24,229 --> 01:24:21,440
right now

1931
01:24:26,070 --> 01:24:24,239
and jay says he just remembers his mom

1932
01:24:27,910 --> 01:24:26,080
grabbing him and his sister out of the

1933
01:24:30,310 --> 01:24:27,920
bed no preparation they ran down the

1934
01:24:32,149 --> 01:24:30,320
stairs at once

1935
01:24:32,950 --> 01:24:32,159
and they carried them

1936
01:24:34,229 --> 01:24:32,960
out

1937
01:24:36,229 --> 01:24:34,239
to the

1938
01:24:37,669 --> 01:24:36,239
parking lot

1939
01:24:39,030 --> 01:24:37,679
and the the front door was right down

1940
01:24:42,830 --> 01:24:39,040
the stairs they went right out didn't

1941
01:24:45,990 --> 01:24:44,709
now they

1942
01:24:47,430 --> 01:24:46,000
to get to their car they had to go

1943
01:24:48,790 --> 01:24:47,440
around the community pool which was

1944
01:24:50,470 --> 01:24:48,800
right in front of the sliding doors in

1945
01:24:52,149 --> 01:24:50,480
their living room

1946
01:24:54,149 --> 01:24:52,159
their sliding glass door didn't have

1947
01:24:55,669 --> 01:24:54,159
curtains so you could see right inside

1948
01:24:58,470 --> 01:24:55,679
the parking lot was on the other side of

1949
01:24:59,750 --> 01:24:58,480
the pool within the side of the place so

1950
01:25:01,270 --> 01:24:59,760
when they got in the car they could see

1951
01:25:03,750 --> 01:25:01,280
in the glass

1952
01:25:06,149 --> 01:25:03,760
windows right through the apartment

1953
01:25:07,669 --> 01:25:06,159
and that's when

1954
01:25:09,350 --> 01:25:07,679
his mom and her friend freaked out

1955
01:25:10,550 --> 01:25:09,360
because when they looked inside their

1956
01:25:12,390 --> 01:25:10,560
apartment

1957
01:25:14,550 --> 01:25:12,400
there was a lady

1958
01:25:16,550 --> 01:25:14,560
with a white gown

1959
01:25:19,990 --> 01:25:16,560
in their living room

1960
01:25:21,270 --> 01:25:20,000
sitting in a rocking chair

1961
01:25:23,270 --> 01:25:21,280
rocking

1962
01:25:24,629 --> 01:25:23,280
with her hands to face looking like she

1963
01:25:25,510 --> 01:25:24,639
was crying

1964
01:25:27,830 --> 01:25:25,520
and the

1965
01:25:29,510 --> 01:25:27,840
two moms started to scream oh my god

1966
01:25:31,270 --> 01:25:29,520
they were trying to get the ignitions in

1967
01:25:32,709 --> 01:25:31,280
the car and they couldn't do it the keys

1968
01:25:34,950 --> 01:25:32,719
in the ignition

1969
01:25:36,390 --> 01:25:34,960
and they ended up speeding away and

1970
01:25:38,550 --> 01:25:36,400
going to

1971
01:25:40,870 --> 01:25:38,560
jay's grandma's house

1972
01:25:43,669 --> 01:25:40,880
they never went back to that house again

1973
01:25:46,550 --> 01:25:43,679
no now jay doesn't know what happened to

1974
01:25:48,149 --> 01:25:46,560
the painting i i tried to contact him

1975
01:25:49,430 --> 01:25:48,159
recently and find out i don't think we

1976
01:25:51,270 --> 01:25:49,440
still know

1977
01:25:55,270 --> 01:25:51,280
but he says he'll never forget seeing

1978
01:25:58,470 --> 01:25:55,280
that rocking woman from the painting um

1979
01:25:59,910 --> 01:25:58,480
he thinks that uh it was not a dream it

1980
01:26:01,510 --> 01:25:59,920
was real it's something they all

1981
01:26:04,629 --> 01:26:01,520
experienced

1982
01:26:06,709 --> 01:26:04,639
and uh yeah that painting possibly

1983
01:26:09,270 --> 01:26:06,719
whatever spirit was in that painting he

1984
01:26:10,870 --> 01:26:09,280
says came to life he says hard hard to

1985
01:26:13,430 --> 01:26:10,880
talk about

1986
01:26:15,430 --> 01:26:13,440
i i believe every word of that that is a

1987
01:26:18,390 --> 01:26:15,440
terrifying ghost story

1988
01:26:19,910 --> 01:26:18,400
and it's it's a ghost story it's a true

1989
01:26:21,990 --> 01:26:19,920
story that's

1990
01:26:25,110 --> 01:26:22,000
this is what i was talking about earlier

1991
01:26:26,229 --> 01:26:25,120
um this stuff freaks me out

1992
01:26:29,590 --> 01:26:26,239
yeah

1993
01:26:31,910 --> 01:26:29,600
because again jimmy and i sound like a

1994
01:26:34,149 --> 01:26:31,920
broken record

1995
01:26:36,709 --> 01:26:34,159
i think reality

1996
01:26:39,510 --> 01:26:36,719
is so much weirder than we give it

1997
01:26:42,470 --> 01:26:39,520
credit for i think there is so much

1998
01:26:45,350 --> 01:26:42,480
going on that yeah

1999
01:26:47,189 --> 01:26:45,360
it's weird it's spooky it's scary

2000
01:26:48,629 --> 01:26:47,199
but it's real too

2001
01:26:50,390 --> 01:26:48,639
now that doesn't mean each and every

2002
01:26:53,990 --> 01:26:50,400
story we ever hear is true

2003
01:26:55,270 --> 01:26:54,000
but i gotta tell you you know

2004
01:26:57,590 --> 01:26:55,280
i talk to some people that seem

2005
01:26:59,270 --> 01:26:57,600
extremely sincere they really have

2006
01:27:00,229 --> 01:26:59,280
nothing to gain by telling me these

2007
01:27:02,709 --> 01:27:00,239
stories

2008
01:27:04,709 --> 01:27:02,719
and for the most part i believe them for

2009
01:27:06,070 --> 01:27:04,719
example that gentleman i absolutely

2010
01:27:08,390 --> 01:27:06,080
believe in

2011
01:27:11,350 --> 01:27:08,400
and uh just uh

2012
01:27:12,390 --> 01:27:11,360
just incredible well here's in and and

2013
01:27:17,590 --> 01:27:12,400
here's

2014
01:27:20,709 --> 01:27:17,600
when we

2015
01:27:21,590 --> 01:27:20,719
hear evps for instance

2016
01:27:25,430 --> 01:27:21,600
or

2017
01:27:27,110 --> 01:27:25,440
uh there's a ghost sighting it's never a

2018
01:27:30,470 --> 01:27:27,120
happy moment

2019
01:27:31,430 --> 01:27:30,480
i feel that these spirits

2020
01:27:33,510 --> 01:27:31,440
uh

2021
01:27:35,590 --> 01:27:33,520
these souls

2022
01:27:37,110 --> 01:27:35,600
are lost they don't know where they're

2023
01:27:39,030 --> 01:27:37,120
at

2024
01:27:41,510 --> 01:27:39,040
right they're they're they're thrust

2025
01:27:44,149 --> 01:27:41,520
into a a new dimension

2026
01:27:46,550 --> 01:27:44,159
an alternate reality they don't know how

2027
01:27:49,990 --> 01:27:46,560
necessarily how they got there they

2028
01:27:51,750 --> 01:27:50,000
can't communicate um and everything that

2029
01:27:55,430 --> 01:27:51,760
we hear

2030
01:27:57,430 --> 01:27:55,440
um uh that's recorded or visual or the

2031
01:28:00,950 --> 01:27:57,440
stories or the witnesses

2032
01:28:02,550 --> 01:28:00,960
um it's it's it's it's total sadness and

2033
01:28:04,229 --> 01:28:02,560
it's confusion

2034
01:28:05,830 --> 01:28:04,239
and and

2035
01:28:07,510 --> 01:28:05,840
uh

2036
01:28:09,910 --> 01:28:07,520
they they feel like they're being

2037
01:28:12,070 --> 01:28:09,920
communicated to but they can't

2038
01:28:14,550 --> 01:28:12,080
communicate back and there's this

2039
01:28:15,830 --> 01:28:14,560
sadness this melancholy that is wrapped

2040
01:28:18,790 --> 01:28:15,840
around in this

2041
01:28:22,390 --> 01:28:18,800
like this lady in the rocking chair

2042
01:28:24,709 --> 01:28:22,400
you know is she sad because

2043
01:28:25,750 --> 01:28:24,719
of an event is she sad because she's

2044
01:28:28,390 --> 01:28:25,760
lost

2045
01:28:31,189 --> 01:28:28,400
is she sad because she's alone

2046
01:28:32,790 --> 01:28:31,199
right she's in a in a dimension that she

2047
01:28:36,709 --> 01:28:32,800
can't get out of

2048
01:28:39,590 --> 01:28:36,719
that's that's the part that that uh

2049
01:28:41,590 --> 01:28:39,600
not only fascinates me but it really

2050
01:28:45,030 --> 01:28:41,600
makes me think

2051
01:28:46,870 --> 01:28:45,040
you don't hear about happy ghosts

2052
01:28:49,030 --> 01:28:46,880
yeah for the most part i mean you get

2053
01:28:50,070 --> 01:28:49,040
you know nice after death communications

2054
01:28:52,470 --> 01:28:50,080
and

2055
01:28:54,229 --> 01:28:52,480
things sometimes but the thing that

2056
01:28:57,270 --> 01:28:54,239
probably you just put your finger on the

2057
01:29:00,550 --> 01:28:57,280
thing that bothers me the most

2058
01:29:02,550 --> 01:29:00,560
about all of this in other words for me

2059
01:29:04,149 --> 01:29:02,560
you know i came from

2060
01:29:05,830 --> 01:29:04,159
the christian faith but i was never a

2061
01:29:07,669 --> 01:29:05,840
big churchgoer or anything like that

2062
01:29:09,030 --> 01:29:07,679
although in high school i went to a

2063
01:29:10,950 --> 01:29:09,040
pretty

2064
01:29:13,189 --> 01:29:10,960
extreme high school that they had some

2065
01:29:15,350 --> 01:29:13,199
pretty extreme beliefs uh

2066
01:29:18,310 --> 01:29:15,360
in terms of kind of fundamentalist

2067
01:29:20,870 --> 01:29:18,320
christian but i was never like a huge

2068
01:29:24,149 --> 01:29:20,880
churchgoer or anything for the most part

2069
01:29:25,750 --> 01:29:24,159
but i've always maintained a certain uh

2070
01:29:27,830 --> 01:29:25,760
amount of faith in that area and

2071
01:29:30,310 --> 01:29:27,840
consider myself with the christian faith

2072
01:29:32,229 --> 01:29:30,320
but my thought was always been you know

2073
01:29:35,750 --> 01:29:32,239
that that when souls go even if you

2074
01:29:38,070 --> 01:29:35,760
believe in something like reincarnation

2075
01:29:40,870 --> 01:29:38,080
that souls go to kind of their just

2076
01:29:42,950 --> 01:29:40,880
reward and you know if if you believe in

2077
01:29:45,270 --> 01:29:42,960
reincarnation you know you're

2078
01:29:46,870 --> 01:29:45,280
reincarnated until you learn the lessons

2079
01:29:47,990 --> 01:29:46,880
that you have to learn and if i

2080
01:29:49,910 --> 01:29:48,000
understand it correctly you're

2081
01:29:51,189 --> 01:29:49,920
reincarnating if you you know let's say

2082
01:29:52,629 --> 01:29:51,199
you were a

2083
01:29:54,870 --> 01:29:52,639
horrible boss

2084
01:29:56,470 --> 01:29:54,880
in in one life maybe you're reincarnated

2085
01:29:58,070 --> 01:29:56,480
to be on the other end of that so you

2086
01:29:59,669 --> 01:29:58,080
can learn the lesson of what that's like

2087
01:30:00,790 --> 01:29:59,679
it's not really punishment it's more

2088
01:30:03,590 --> 01:30:00,800
teaching you

2089
01:30:05,590 --> 01:30:03,600
so you have this sense of justice and

2090
01:30:06,950 --> 01:30:05,600
i've always felt that the uni first of

2091
01:30:08,790 --> 01:30:06,960
all i'm

2092
01:30:10,629 --> 01:30:08,800
you know i believe that something

2093
01:30:12,310 --> 01:30:10,639
created all this i don't think this just

2094
01:30:14,790 --> 01:30:12,320
happened it's too amazing it's too

2095
01:30:16,470 --> 01:30:14,800
incredible the tolerances for survival

2096
01:30:18,310 --> 01:30:16,480
of life are too great for this just to

2097
01:30:19,990 --> 01:30:18,320
have happen in my opinion

2098
01:30:22,229 --> 01:30:20,000
so i've always felt that there's some

2099
01:30:25,430 --> 01:30:22,239
level of justice

2100
01:30:27,270 --> 01:30:25,440
and even with a heaven and hell i mean

2101
01:30:30,310 --> 01:30:27,280
i don't think you should go to hell for

2102
01:30:33,510 --> 01:30:30,320
jaywalking but hit your hitler hey

2103
01:30:34,870 --> 01:30:33,520
you know uh i don't feel sorry for you

2104
01:30:37,430 --> 01:30:34,880
uh

2105
01:30:39,430 --> 01:30:37,440
but what you're saying and what i've

2106
01:30:42,070 --> 01:30:39,440
grappled with when you have these ideas

2107
01:30:44,149 --> 01:30:42,080
of these spirits that are stuck

2108
01:30:45,990 --> 01:30:44,159
that somehow

2109
01:30:48,229 --> 01:30:46,000
that there might not be justice for

2110
01:30:50,550 --> 01:30:48,239
everybody and some people may be in kind

2111
01:30:52,709 --> 01:30:50,560
of this

2112
01:30:55,030 --> 01:30:52,719
nowhere land and they can't get out

2113
01:30:57,030 --> 01:30:55,040
that's that's really scary to me

2114
01:30:59,110 --> 01:30:57,040
you know that many times i'll talk to

2115
01:31:01,110 --> 01:30:59,120
experts and authors and they'll say well

2116
01:31:03,110 --> 01:31:01,120
you know maybe somebody doesn't go to

2117
01:31:05,030 --> 01:31:03,120
the light they're stuck because maybe

2118
01:31:06,390 --> 01:31:05,040
they had a sudden passing they died in

2119
01:31:09,110 --> 01:31:06,400
something and they don't realize they're

2120
01:31:10,950 --> 01:31:09,120
dead that seems really unfair to me

2121
01:31:12,550 --> 01:31:10,960
so that that's something

2122
01:31:14,790 --> 01:31:12,560
overall my experience with these shows

2123
01:31:16,550 --> 01:31:14,800
has been very positive in the sense that

2124
01:31:18,470 --> 01:31:16,560
it's made me believe there really is

2125
01:31:20,470 --> 01:31:18,480
more to life

2126
01:31:21,750 --> 01:31:20,480
than just you know three score and ten

2127
01:31:24,550 --> 01:31:21,760
and you're done

2128
01:31:25,830 --> 01:31:24,560
but that's something that bothers me and

2129
01:31:27,990 --> 01:31:25,840
the sense that there might not be

2130
01:31:29,990 --> 01:31:28,000
justice and some people get stuck that

2131
01:31:32,629 --> 01:31:30,000
still bothers me let's take our break

2132
01:31:34,950 --> 01:31:32,639
right here and uh

2133
01:31:37,189 --> 01:31:34,960
it's halloween night

2134
01:31:39,270 --> 01:31:37,199
and uh let's uh

2135
01:31:40,870 --> 01:31:39,280
let's uh tell some more stories when we

2136
01:31:42,629 --> 01:31:40,880
come back it's halloween ghost stories

2137
01:31:45,189 --> 01:31:42,639
night with jim harold

2138
01:31:46,950 --> 01:31:45,199
host of the campfire i am your host

2139
01:31:48,470 --> 01:31:46,960
jimmy church this is fade to black stay

2140
01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:48,480
with us we'll be right back after this

2141
01:31:56,050 --> 01:32:06,629
[Music]

2142
01:32:12,870 --> 01:32:09,750
way out here we listen to jimmy church

2143
01:32:14,709 --> 01:32:12,880
you're listening to fade to black

2144
01:32:17,430 --> 01:32:14,719
always on the edge of the hottest

2145
01:32:20,620 --> 01:32:17,440
alternative talk jimmy church with fade

2146
01:32:20,630 --> 01:32:32,310
[Applause]

2147
01:32:37,270 --> 01:32:34,870
hello fader knots ray saab is here

2148
01:32:39,430 --> 01:32:37,280
inviting all of you to join us for the

2149
01:32:42,470 --> 01:32:39,440
launch of a brand new broadcasting

2150
01:32:45,030 --> 01:32:42,480
platform called the annex network tune

2151
01:32:48,070 --> 01:32:45,040
in halloween night as we go live on the

2152
01:32:50,550 --> 01:32:48,080
xstream for the first time to reveal our

2153
01:32:52,470 --> 01:32:50,560
plans for this brand new and exciting

2154
01:32:56,229 --> 01:32:52,480
platform if you have an interest in the

2155
01:32:58,310 --> 01:32:56,239
paranormal ufos cryptids ghosts hidden

2156
01:33:00,629 --> 01:32:58,320
histories and alternative research

2157
01:33:03,350 --> 01:33:00,639
breakthrough technology you will want to

2158
01:33:05,510 --> 01:33:03,360
make the x your brand new home our

2159
01:33:08,149 --> 01:33:05,520
programs will feature many familiar

2160
01:33:09,830 --> 01:33:08,159
faces and even more new ones and our

2161
01:33:12,229 --> 01:33:09,840
listeners can interact and help

2162
01:33:14,390 --> 01:33:12,239
investigative journalists authors

2163
01:33:16,629 --> 01:33:14,400
researchers and hosts who work

2164
01:33:19,669 --> 01:33:16,639
diligently in the fight against the

2165
01:33:22,070 --> 01:33:19,679
ideological divide that exists in media

2166
01:33:24,390 --> 01:33:22,080
today this platform is for critical

2167
01:33:27,030 --> 01:33:24,400
thinkers seeking the alternatives to

2168
01:33:30,189 --> 01:33:27,040
mainstream thought so join us october

2169
01:33:32,790 --> 01:33:30,199
the 31st at 8pm eastern

2170
01:33:36,310 --> 01:33:32,800
xnetwork.com as we kick off the

2171
01:33:38,310 --> 01:33:36,320
mothership the unex network explaining

2172
01:33:40,310 --> 01:33:38,320
the unexplained

2173
01:33:42,149 --> 01:33:40,320
fader knots when you think about the

2174
01:33:44,070 --> 01:33:42,159
future of our country and where we're

2175
01:33:47,110 --> 01:33:44,080
headed do you wonder about the food

2176
01:33:49,270 --> 01:33:47,120
supply i do disruptions in the food

2177
01:33:52,070 --> 01:33:49,280
supply chain could be disastrous and

2178
01:33:54,070 --> 01:33:52,080
they usually occur with little warning

2179
01:33:57,030 --> 01:33:54,080
that's why the smartest thing you can do

2180
01:34:00,070 --> 01:33:57,040
today is to stockpile emergency food

2181
01:34:02,790 --> 01:34:00,080
water and other essentials i personally

2182
01:34:05,110 --> 01:34:02,800
recommend my patriot supply they're the

2183
01:34:07,669 --> 01:34:05,120
nation's largest emergency preparedness

2184
01:34:10,229 --> 01:34:07,679
company serving millions of customers

2185
01:34:12,870 --> 01:34:10,239
for more than a decade in fact they're

2186
01:34:15,990 --> 01:34:12,880
the only source my family trusts for our

2187
01:34:19,350 --> 01:34:16,000
preparedness plan you should too right

2188
01:34:21,830 --> 01:34:19,360
now save 20 off a full four week supply

2189
01:34:24,950 --> 01:34:21,840
of delicious meals that provide 2 000

2190
01:34:27,910 --> 01:34:24,960
calories a day saving 20 helps too

2191
01:34:30,870 --> 01:34:27,920
doesn't it especially now so go to

2192
01:34:34,229 --> 01:34:30,880
prepare with jimmy.com and get ready

2193
01:34:35,510 --> 01:34:34,239
that's prepare with jimmy.com there's no

2194
01:34:37,510 --> 01:34:35,520
time to lose

2195
01:34:39,590 --> 01:34:37,520
do it now

2196
01:34:41,430 --> 01:34:39,600
state or not when you think about the

2197
01:34:43,350 --> 01:34:41,440
future of our country and where we're

2198
01:34:46,390 --> 01:34:43,360
headed do you wonder about the food

2199
01:34:48,550 --> 01:34:46,400
supply i do disruptions in the food

2200
01:34:51,350 --> 01:34:48,560
supply chain could be disastrous and

2201
01:34:53,350 --> 01:34:51,360
they usually occur with little warning

2202
01:34:56,390 --> 01:34:53,360
that's why the smartest thing you can do

2203
01:34:59,350 --> 01:34:56,400
today is to stockpile emergency food

2204
01:35:02,149 --> 01:34:59,360
water and other essentials i personally

2205
01:35:04,470 --> 01:35:02,159
recommend my patriot supply they're the

2206
01:35:07,030 --> 01:35:04,480
nation's largest emergency preparedness

2207
01:35:09,510 --> 01:35:07,040
company serving millions of customers

2208
01:35:12,149 --> 01:35:09,520
for more than a decade in fact they're

2209
01:35:15,270 --> 01:35:12,159
the only source my family trusts for our

2210
01:35:18,629 --> 01:35:15,280
preparedness plan you should too right

2211
01:35:21,109 --> 01:35:18,639
now save 20 off a full four week supply

2212
01:35:24,229 --> 01:35:21,119
of delicious meals that provide 2 000

2213
01:35:27,950 --> 01:35:24,239
calories a day saving 20 helps too

2214
01:35:30,149 --> 01:35:27,960
doesn't it especially now so go to

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01:36:24,870 --> 01:36:20,070
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2235
01:36:27,350 --> 01:36:24,880
jimmy church on the game changer network

2236
01:36:30,310 --> 01:36:27,360
hi i'm reese evans you're listening to

2237
01:36:33,109 --> 01:36:30,320
jimmy church this is revolution the

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01:36:36,390 --> 01:36:33,119
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01:36:40,120 --> 01:36:36,400
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01:37:19,669 --> 01:37:10,200
[Music]

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01:37:23,109 --> 01:37:21,430
welcome back fade to black i am your

2242
01:37:24,470 --> 01:37:23,119
host jimmy church halloween ghost

2243
01:37:26,629 --> 01:37:24,480
stories

2244
01:37:27,830 --> 01:37:26,639
with jim harold happy halloween

2245
01:37:29,350 --> 01:37:27,840
everybody

2246
01:37:32,149 --> 01:37:29,360
and uh we're going to keep this party

2247
01:37:34,870 --> 01:37:32,159
going and uh but uh

2248
01:37:36,229 --> 01:37:34,880
it made me think uh jim talking about

2249
01:37:39,430 --> 01:37:36,239
the painting

2250
01:37:41,990 --> 01:37:39,440
uh something strange happened at my

2251
01:37:44,229 --> 01:37:42,000
house uh this weekend

2252
01:37:45,910 --> 01:37:44,239
i still haven't gotten to the bottom of

2253
01:37:47,350 --> 01:37:45,920
it but i think i've got it figured out

2254
01:37:48,950 --> 01:37:47,360
but

2255
01:37:52,070 --> 01:37:48,960
okay

2256
01:37:54,950 --> 01:37:52,080
i just moved into this house and uh

2257
01:37:56,310 --> 01:37:54,960
and i'm still unpacking boxes and moving

2258
01:38:00,070 --> 01:37:56,320
things and stuff

2259
01:38:02,950 --> 01:38:00,080
and in my walk-in closet

2260
01:38:06,870 --> 01:38:02,960
i set up a a shoe rack

2261
01:38:09,109 --> 01:38:06,880
and the shoe rack is about 12 feet wide

2262
01:38:10,070 --> 01:38:09,119
maybe a little longer but about 12 feet

2263
01:38:12,790 --> 01:38:10,080
wide

2264
01:38:15,109 --> 01:38:12,800
and uh two tiers it's a low

2265
01:38:18,149 --> 01:38:15,119
right two tiers

2266
01:38:19,270 --> 01:38:18,159
uh for my adidas collection but but

2267
01:38:24,070 --> 01:38:19,280
anyway

2268
01:38:26,229 --> 01:38:24,080
uh so um i'm unpacking shoes and and and

2269
01:38:28,870 --> 01:38:26,239
and placing them on the rack

2270
01:38:30,790 --> 01:38:28,880
and uh and going down to the garage i'm

2271
01:38:33,270 --> 01:38:30,800
packing another box pulling out more

2272
01:38:36,149 --> 01:38:33,280
shoes and and stuff but i'm also doing

2273
01:38:38,950 --> 01:38:36,159
things around the house so anyway i and

2274
01:38:40,149 --> 01:38:38,960
i get the top row done

2275
01:38:42,870 --> 01:38:40,159
and uh

2276
01:38:44,470 --> 01:38:42,880
and and i come back in and i walk around

2277
01:38:45,910 --> 01:38:44,480
the corner

2278
01:38:48,709 --> 01:38:45,920
into

2279
01:38:51,109 --> 01:38:48,719
i have a laundry basket full of folded

2280
01:38:52,870 --> 01:38:51,119
clothes and i walk into my walk-in

2281
01:38:55,430 --> 01:38:52,880
closet and

2282
01:38:58,390 --> 01:38:55,440
two pairs of shoes

2283
01:39:00,070 --> 01:38:58,400
are in the middle of the floor

2284
01:39:01,590 --> 01:39:00,080
[Laughter]

2285
01:39:03,750 --> 01:39:01,600
and i you know i'm going to be honest

2286
01:39:05,830 --> 01:39:03,760
with you i kind of freaked

2287
01:39:07,030 --> 01:39:05,840
right you know and i'm looking at the

2288
01:39:08,470 --> 01:39:07,040
shoes and

2289
01:39:10,550 --> 01:39:08,480
and they're they're out so they're like

2290
01:39:13,350 --> 01:39:10,560
in the middle of the floor

2291
01:39:14,870 --> 01:39:13,360
and uh and i'm just looking i'm like no

2292
01:39:15,750 --> 01:39:14,880
man no

2293
01:39:21,270 --> 01:39:15,760
no

2294
01:39:22,950 --> 01:39:21,280
and so i take some pictures

2295
01:39:25,109 --> 01:39:22,960
and i i take the shoes and put them back

2296
01:39:27,830 --> 01:39:25,119
on the rack and put the put the laundry

2297
01:39:29,990 --> 01:39:27,840
away and and split i'm doing stuff

2298
01:39:31,910 --> 01:39:30,000
around the house i come back upstairs as

2299
01:39:33,830 --> 01:39:31,920
uh maybe another load of laundry and i

2300
01:39:35,430 --> 01:39:33,840
walk back in and they're back on the

2301
01:39:38,229 --> 01:39:35,440
floor

2302
01:39:42,550 --> 01:39:38,239
and i was like man

2303
01:39:44,870 --> 01:39:42,560
man man man man and it didn't take long

2304
01:39:45,910 --> 01:39:44,880
right it wasn't long it's an hour or two

2305
01:39:48,149 --> 01:39:45,920
hours

2306
01:39:49,669 --> 01:39:48,159
and i'm picturing in my mind them

2307
01:39:52,470 --> 01:39:49,679
falling down

2308
01:39:55,030 --> 01:39:52,480
and and and and in into the middle of

2309
01:39:56,790 --> 01:39:55,040
the floor you know what's going on

2310
01:39:59,750 --> 01:39:56,800
and i say to myself out loud i'm like i

2311
01:40:01,270 --> 01:39:59,760
got a ghost okay it's cool and i walked

2312
01:40:03,270 --> 01:40:01,280
out into the bathroom and i looked in

2313
01:40:05,270 --> 01:40:03,280
the mirror and i smiled at myself and i

2314
01:40:07,189 --> 01:40:05,280
went ah this is pretty cool this is all

2315
01:40:09,669 --> 01:40:07,199
right put the shoes back on the rack

2316
01:40:13,189 --> 01:40:09,679
take some pictures i shoot a video

2317
01:40:15,430 --> 01:40:13,199
and uh now i'm making plans tripods you

2318
01:40:17,590 --> 01:40:15,440
know i'm gonna get cameras in there

2319
01:40:19,510 --> 01:40:17,600
this just happened this is friday

2320
01:40:21,910 --> 01:40:19,520
and uh and it happens like two more

2321
01:40:23,510 --> 01:40:21,920
times and and i'm trying to figure this

2322
01:40:25,270 --> 01:40:23,520
out because the shoes they're tennis

2323
01:40:27,350 --> 01:40:25,280
shoes they stick

2324
01:40:30,229 --> 01:40:27,360
right they're not sliding you know and

2325
01:40:33,270 --> 01:40:30,239
i'm like what is going on so it's like

2326
01:40:35,590 --> 01:40:33,280
two o'clock in the morning friday night

2327
01:40:37,669 --> 01:40:35,600
and um watching a movie and there's a

2328
01:40:40,070 --> 01:40:37,679
quiet part in the movie

2329
01:40:42,870 --> 01:40:40,080
and uh i'm lying in my bed and i hear

2330
01:40:44,149 --> 01:40:42,880
boom boom i went no way

2331
01:40:46,149 --> 01:40:44,159
no way

2332
01:40:47,990 --> 01:40:46,159
and i get up i walk in and the shoes are

2333
01:40:48,830 --> 01:40:48,000
in the middle of the floor again

2334
01:40:53,350 --> 01:40:48,840
so

2335
01:40:55,109 --> 01:40:53,360
uh i then uh i put them back on the

2336
01:40:56,550 --> 01:40:55,119
shelf i go to bed wake up in the morning

2337
01:40:58,470 --> 01:40:56,560
walk in of course they're back down on

2338
01:41:00,870 --> 01:40:58,480
the floor and i'm like i'm done with

2339
01:41:02,149 --> 01:41:00,880
this and i put the shoes on the lower

2340
01:41:04,550 --> 01:41:02,159
rack

2341
01:41:05,430 --> 01:41:04,560
right and these are two black pairs of

2342
01:41:11,510 --> 01:41:05,440
shoes

2343
01:41:13,430 --> 01:41:11,520
they're not going anywhere they haven't

2344
01:41:14,550 --> 01:41:13,440
moved at all

2345
01:41:16,629 --> 01:41:14,560
and uh

2346
01:41:18,629 --> 01:41:16,639
uh later on that afternoon i was like

2347
01:41:19,830 --> 01:41:18,639
okay i'm gonna go check i'll walk in and

2348
01:41:25,750 --> 01:41:19,840
they

2349
01:41:27,510 --> 01:41:25,760
perfectly

2350
01:41:28,310 --> 01:41:27,520
sitting there but they had fallen down

2351
01:41:30,070 --> 01:41:28,320
i've

2352
01:41:31,270 --> 01:41:30,080
they're still there i haven't i haven't

2353
01:41:33,590 --> 01:41:31,280
moved them

2354
01:41:35,350 --> 01:41:33,600
anyway so i'm unpacking a box another

2355
01:41:36,709 --> 01:41:35,360
box and i've got a couple more pairs of

2356
01:41:38,550 --> 01:41:36,719
shoes

2357
01:41:40,629 --> 01:41:38,560
and i go back up and i put them and i'm

2358
01:41:42,870 --> 01:41:40,639
like man

2359
01:41:44,950 --> 01:41:42,880
you know and now it's a white pair of

2360
01:41:47,590 --> 01:41:44,960
adidas and i put them on the uh put them

2361
01:41:50,470 --> 01:41:47,600
on the shelf and i give it about an hour

2362
01:41:52,310 --> 01:41:50,480
and uh this is now sunday

2363
01:41:55,350 --> 01:41:52,320
and i walked in

2364
01:41:57,109 --> 01:41:55,360
the white shoes around the floor

2365
01:41:58,149 --> 01:41:57,119
and uh

2366
01:42:02,629 --> 01:41:58,159
man

2367
01:42:05,669 --> 01:42:02,639
uh so i i don't know i don't know uh i

2368
01:42:08,070 --> 01:42:05,679
am going to uh set cameras up

2369
01:42:10,229 --> 01:42:08,080
and i i i just think it's something to

2370
01:42:12,310 --> 01:42:10,239
do with the so

2371
01:42:13,910 --> 01:42:12,320
somehow they're sliding off

2372
01:42:16,790 --> 01:42:13,920
so i don't be

2373
01:42:18,629 --> 01:42:16,800
it might be or you just kind of describe

2374
01:42:20,390 --> 01:42:18,639
something that's become a thing on the

2375
01:42:23,109 --> 01:42:20,400
campfire

2376
01:42:25,430 --> 01:42:23,119
and it is called jot have you heard of

2377
01:42:27,750 --> 01:42:25,440
jot no what's jot

2378
01:42:30,550 --> 01:42:27,760
okay so a couple years back i

2379
01:42:33,350 --> 01:42:30,560
interviewed an author her name is or was

2380
01:42:36,550 --> 01:42:33,360
mary rose barrington she had a book out

2381
01:42:39,189 --> 01:42:36,560
uh called when ajot j-o-t-t when things

2382
01:42:41,030 --> 01:42:39,199
disappear and come back and relocate and

2383
01:42:43,430 --> 01:42:41,040
why it really happens

2384
01:42:46,550 --> 01:42:43,440
now the thing about this woman was when

2385
01:42:49,750 --> 01:42:46,560
i interviewed her she was probably well

2386
01:42:52,550 --> 01:42:49,760
she was born in 1926. so you do the math

2387
01:42:54,629 --> 01:42:52,560
if i interviewed her in 2018.

2388
01:42:57,669 --> 01:42:54,639
so what would that be would that be in

2389
01:43:01,750 --> 01:42:59,430
or something yeah so anyway she just

2390
01:43:04,950 --> 01:43:01,760
passed unfortunately last

2391
01:43:05,910 --> 01:43:04,960
year i think last year 2019

2392
01:43:08,790 --> 01:43:05,920
but

2393
01:43:10,310 --> 01:43:08,800
this came up on campfire

2394
01:43:12,229 --> 01:43:10,320
and somebody called in with one of these

2395
01:43:14,390 --> 01:43:12,239
stories where they know where they put

2396
01:43:15,430 --> 01:43:14,400
something and it disappeared and it

2397
01:43:18,070 --> 01:43:15,440
shows up

2398
01:43:19,430 --> 01:43:18,080
the same place a month later where they

2399
01:43:21,590 --> 01:43:19,440
put it

2400
01:43:23,830 --> 01:43:21,600
and i mentioned jot and we got an

2401
01:43:25,830 --> 01:43:23,840
avalanche of jot stories i'll read to

2402
01:43:28,229 --> 01:43:25,840
you kind of a synopsis from the amazon

2403
01:43:30,470 --> 01:43:28,239
page what it is riffs in the fabric of

2404
01:43:32,790 --> 01:43:30,480
causality jot is derived from just one

2405
01:43:34,629 --> 01:43:32,800
of those things meaning that things that

2406
01:43:36,950 --> 01:43:34,639
fall on the floor never seen again or

2407
01:43:38,870 --> 01:43:36,960
were placed on a table for ready access

2408
01:43:40,790 --> 01:43:38,880
but were next seen a few weeks later in

2409
01:43:43,750 --> 01:43:40,800
a box of quirks inside a drawer and a

2410
01:43:46,310 --> 01:43:43,760
trunk or which are not where you left

2411
01:43:48,550 --> 01:43:46,320
them but unaccountably reappear on top

2412
01:43:50,950 --> 01:43:48,560
of something you have just placed there

2413
01:43:53,030 --> 01:43:50,960
jot takes a variety of forms but is

2414
01:43:55,830 --> 01:43:53,040
generally dismissed as your faulty

2415
01:43:58,390 --> 01:43:55,840
memory your faulty perception your

2416
01:44:00,870 --> 01:43:58,400
inability to report facts correctly or

2417
01:44:03,830 --> 01:44:00,880
just as a nuisance best forgotten but

2418
01:44:06,709 --> 01:44:03,840
sometimes the anomaly really is a blip

2419
01:44:08,790 --> 01:44:06,719
in our causal reality and the cool thing

2420
01:44:11,189 --> 01:44:08,800
about this author and i'm i'm so sad

2421
01:44:12,470 --> 01:44:11,199
that she didn't get to see this

2422
01:44:15,350 --> 01:44:12,480
not that it's

2423
01:44:16,790 --> 01:44:15,360
you know it's not like it's on

2424
01:44:18,629 --> 01:44:16,800
you know the national news or anything

2425
01:44:22,310 --> 01:44:18,639
but even in our little community of

2426
01:44:24,550 --> 01:44:22,320
campfire seeing this gain such traction

2427
01:44:27,030 --> 01:44:24,560
she was a lawyer

2428
01:44:29,350 --> 01:44:27,040
she was a charity administrator

2429
01:44:31,510 --> 01:44:29,360
she was a vice president of the society

2430
01:44:34,229 --> 01:44:31,520
for psychical research which

2431
01:44:36,229 --> 01:44:34,239
you know if anybody knows the spr that

2432
01:44:38,390 --> 01:44:36,239
goes way back and that's been a very

2433
01:44:40,629 --> 01:44:38,400
serious organization

2434
01:44:43,189 --> 01:44:40,639
but very serious research organization

2435
01:44:44,870 --> 01:44:43,199
yes and uh

2436
01:44:45,669 --> 01:44:44,880
she uh

2437
01:44:47,510 --> 01:44:45,679
and

2438
01:44:49,669 --> 01:44:47,520
she became president of the oxford

2439
01:44:51,990 --> 01:44:49,679
university spr so we're not talking

2440
01:44:53,910 --> 01:44:52,000
about a lightweight here right so she

2441
01:44:55,430 --> 01:44:53,920
wrote this book and i just think it's so

2442
01:44:57,669 --> 01:44:55,440
cool

2443
01:45:00,790 --> 01:44:57,679
in a way that it's living beyond her in

2444
01:45:02,629 --> 01:45:00,800
the sense that it you know

2445
01:45:04,470 --> 01:45:02,639
people are seeing that yeah maybe this

2446
01:45:06,149 --> 01:45:04,480
isn't just i forgot where i put my shoes

2447
01:45:07,830 --> 01:45:06,159
or maybe it's not just where they're

2448
01:45:12,150 --> 01:45:07,840
slipping off now they could be slipping

2449
01:45:15,030 --> 01:45:12,160
off but maybe not jimmy maybe it's a jot

2450
01:45:16,870 --> 01:45:15,040
[Laughter]

2451
01:45:17,830 --> 01:45:16,880
i'm telling you

2452
01:45:22,149 --> 01:45:17,840
when

2453
01:45:24,390 --> 01:45:22,159
saw those shoes on the floor

2454
01:45:26,229 --> 01:45:24,400
uh it didn't compute

2455
01:45:29,750 --> 01:45:26,239
i've never had anything like that happen

2456
01:45:30,790 --> 01:45:29,760
quite like that i mean very deliberate

2457
01:45:33,270 --> 01:45:30,800
now

2458
01:45:37,109 --> 01:45:33,280
there's probably some

2459
01:45:39,109 --> 01:45:37,119
something very mundane uh some simple

2460
01:45:42,470 --> 01:45:39,119
explanation to this

2461
01:45:46,229 --> 01:45:42,480
where obviously these shoes are defying

2462
01:45:47,590 --> 01:45:46,239
every law of physics that we know

2463
01:45:50,870 --> 01:45:47,600
and uh

2464
01:45:52,149 --> 01:45:50,880
anything that can happen uh will

2465
01:45:55,270 --> 01:45:52,159
eventually

2466
01:45:58,390 --> 01:45:55,280
and and these shoes have chosen

2467
01:46:01,990 --> 01:45:58,400
uh to defy everything that newton wrote

2468
01:46:04,550 --> 01:46:02,000
out for us 300 years ago i don't know um

2469
01:46:07,510 --> 01:46:04,560
i find it very interesting that all the

2470
01:46:10,229 --> 01:46:07,520
other shoes haven't moved one and two

2471
01:46:10,950 --> 01:46:10,239
i wish you could be here

2472
01:46:17,109 --> 01:46:10,960
to

2473
01:46:18,470 --> 01:46:17,119
them they don't they they're stuck

2474
01:46:21,189 --> 01:46:18,480
they're sticky

2475
01:46:23,350 --> 01:46:21,199
so what is it i don't know i don't know

2476
01:46:24,229 --> 01:46:23,360
or maybe it's a spirit just messing with

2477
01:46:26,390 --> 01:46:24,239
jesus

2478
01:46:29,350 --> 01:46:26,400
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

2479
01:46:31,350 --> 01:46:29,360
i mean i literally said i've got a ghost

2480
01:46:32,950 --> 01:46:31,360
and i laughed about it and i thought it

2481
01:46:34,070 --> 01:46:32,960
was pretty funny

2482
01:46:37,430 --> 01:46:34,080
um

2483
01:46:39,750 --> 01:46:37,440
and and and we'll see we'll see we'll

2484
01:46:42,470 --> 01:46:39,760
see i'm gonna i'm definitely going to

2485
01:46:45,109 --> 01:46:42,480
videotape this and and put a pretty cool

2486
01:46:47,270 --> 01:46:45,119
video together uh so everybody can

2487
01:46:50,149 --> 01:46:47,280
understand what i'm talking about but i

2488
01:46:52,870 --> 01:46:50,159
posted a bunch of pictures online and

2489
01:46:55,910 --> 01:46:52,880
and uh i truly freaked out now

2490
01:46:58,310 --> 01:46:55,920
now i've resolved it i've calmed down a

2491
01:47:01,830 --> 01:46:58,320
little bit i've resolved it in my own

2492
01:47:03,990 --> 01:47:01,840
mind it's it's my way of uh

2493
01:47:05,669 --> 01:47:04,000
protecting myself well you know it

2494
01:47:08,390 --> 01:47:05,679
reminds me of something and this didn't

2495
01:47:10,310 --> 01:47:08,400
happen to me that it happened to my wife

2496
01:47:13,030 --> 01:47:10,320
um this is not in the house that we

2497
01:47:14,390 --> 01:47:13,040
moved in six months ago this was in our

2498
01:47:15,430 --> 01:47:14,400
old house

2499
01:47:16,709 --> 01:47:15,440
and

2500
01:47:17,669 --> 01:47:16,719
um

2501
01:47:20,070 --> 01:47:17,679
one

2502
01:47:23,510 --> 01:47:20,080
night around the holiday time she was

2503
01:47:25,750 --> 01:47:23,520
doing some christmas wrapping and things

2504
01:47:27,350 --> 01:47:25,760
and she walks into our bedroom because

2505
01:47:29,590 --> 01:47:27,360
she had a closet where she kept the

2506
01:47:31,430 --> 01:47:29,600
christmas wrapping and stuff and hides

2507
01:47:32,709 --> 01:47:31,440
gifts and stuff like that from the kids

2508
01:47:34,550 --> 01:47:32,719
or whatever

2509
01:47:35,669 --> 01:47:34,560
and she walks in and she's holding one

2510
01:47:37,669 --> 01:47:35,679
of those big

2511
01:47:39,510 --> 01:47:37,679
gift paper rolls you know what the ones

2512
01:47:41,510 --> 01:47:39,520
i'm talking about

2513
01:47:43,270 --> 01:47:41,520
and

2514
01:47:45,830 --> 01:47:43,280
nobody's upstairs

2515
01:47:49,189 --> 01:47:45,840
the kids are the kids are in bed

2516
01:47:50,629 --> 01:47:49,199
she walks in the room and somebody pulls

2517
01:47:53,830 --> 01:47:50,639
something pulls

2518
01:47:54,950 --> 01:47:53,840
on the wrapping paper

2519
01:47:56,709 --> 01:47:54,960
that's it

2520
01:47:57,990 --> 01:47:56,719
i mean and that's the thing that a lot

2521
01:48:00,149 --> 01:47:58,000
of times you know they're super

2522
01:48:01,590 --> 01:48:00,159
elaborate stories and oh you know this

2523
01:48:03,030 --> 01:48:01,600
happened and this happened and the other

2524
01:48:04,870 --> 01:48:03,040
thing happened and this happened and

2525
01:48:07,430 --> 01:48:04,880
that happened but sometimes some of the

2526
01:48:09,189 --> 01:48:07,440
most powerful stories are like somebody

2527
01:48:11,109 --> 01:48:09,199
tried to pull this wrapping paper out of

2528
01:48:12,709 --> 01:48:11,119
my hands there was no one there right

2529
01:48:14,470 --> 01:48:12,719
and that's kind of like your shoe story

2530
01:48:15,270 --> 01:48:14,480
right i mean your shoes fell off the

2531
01:48:17,990 --> 01:48:15,280
rack

2532
01:48:19,990 --> 01:48:18,000
but if you think about it well how did

2533
01:48:21,910 --> 01:48:20,000
they fall off the rack again

2534
01:48:24,149 --> 01:48:21,920
hinting at that whole thing about

2535
01:48:26,070 --> 01:48:24,159
reality being stranger than we think it

2536
01:48:27,830 --> 01:48:26,080
is i uh

2537
01:48:29,910 --> 01:48:27,840
a couple of uh

2538
01:48:31,189 --> 01:48:29,920
years ago this is probably three or four

2539
01:48:34,070 --> 01:48:31,199
years ago now

2540
01:48:36,070 --> 01:48:34,080
um i've got a big uh guitar collection

2541
01:48:38,390 --> 01:48:36,080
i've got a lot of guitars i do i do they

2542
01:48:40,470 --> 01:48:38,400
go that way they go that way right

2543
01:48:41,830 --> 01:48:40,480
there's a lot of guitars in here

2544
01:48:45,189 --> 01:48:41,840
and uh

2545
01:48:47,590 --> 01:48:45,199
and i i finished the show and the

2546
01:48:50,149 --> 01:48:47,600
uh it wasn't this bunker it was another

2547
01:48:52,709 --> 01:48:50,159
one but everything is sound proofed and

2548
01:48:55,910 --> 01:48:52,719
just like this room here there's stuff

2549
01:48:57,669 --> 01:48:55,920
like your studio right um a lot of

2550
01:49:01,030 --> 01:48:57,679
acoustic treatment goes on on the

2551
01:49:02,709 --> 01:49:01,040
ceiling and the walls and but when the

2552
01:49:05,830 --> 01:49:02,719
show's over

2553
01:49:07,990 --> 01:49:05,840
and i take my headphones off it is dead

2554
01:49:09,430 --> 01:49:08,000
quiet you can't hear a thing right it's

2555
01:49:12,790 --> 01:49:09,440
dead quiet

2556
01:49:15,430 --> 01:49:12,800
so i i take off my headphones the show's

2557
01:49:17,589 --> 01:49:15,440
over i put my headphones down

2558
01:49:19,830 --> 01:49:17,599
and this is what

2559
01:49:22,229 --> 01:49:19,840
happens this is what i hear i don't know

2560
01:49:30,870 --> 01:49:22,239
if you can hear it i have noise gates on

2561
01:49:35,510 --> 01:49:32,470
right now

2562
01:49:36,870 --> 01:49:35,520
it's to my back

2563
01:49:39,430 --> 01:49:36,880
and i hear it

2564
01:49:42,709 --> 01:49:39,440
and i spin around and i'm looking at the

2565
01:49:45,589 --> 01:49:42,719
guitars like which one did that did that

2566
01:49:47,189 --> 01:49:45,599
and and and i'm looking there's nothing

2567
01:49:48,390 --> 01:49:47,199
to fall

2568
01:49:49,669 --> 01:49:48,400
there's nothing

2569
01:49:51,990 --> 01:49:49,679
and to do

2570
01:49:57,510 --> 01:49:52,000
what i heard

2571
01:50:01,990 --> 01:49:59,669
did what i'm saying do you understand

2572
01:50:04,470 --> 01:50:02,000
nothing fell on the guitar

2573
01:50:07,350 --> 01:50:04,480
it was a strum yeah when you strum a

2574
01:50:09,350 --> 01:50:07,360
guitar right right right yeah and i was

2575
01:50:10,870 --> 01:50:09,360
i was sitting in the studio

2576
01:50:13,270 --> 01:50:10,880
i was like this is

2577
01:50:16,790 --> 01:50:13,280
this is my

2578
01:50:20,310 --> 01:50:16,800
right i mean i did that by myself

2579
01:50:21,189 --> 01:50:20,320
and i wouldn't i mean i i

2580
01:50:30,310 --> 01:50:21,199
i

2581
01:50:31,430 --> 01:50:30,320
what just happened

2582
01:50:34,390 --> 01:50:31,440
and

2583
01:50:37,109 --> 01:50:34,400
for it

2584
01:50:38,790 --> 01:50:37,119
and it was crazy and in the quietness of

2585
01:50:41,350 --> 01:50:38,800
the studio which is all soundproof that

2586
01:50:43,270 --> 01:50:41,360
thing was loud you know sure and that'll

2587
01:50:45,510 --> 01:50:43,280
stand out it was

2588
01:50:47,030 --> 01:50:45,520
it was it was bizarre i still don't i

2589
01:50:47,830 --> 01:50:47,040
still here's something i'll throw out to

2590
01:50:53,189 --> 01:50:47,840
you

2591
01:50:54,950 --> 01:50:53,199
knows that

2592
01:50:57,350 --> 01:50:54,960
so was it something

2593
01:50:59,990 --> 01:50:57,360
trying to speak to you in a way that

2594
01:51:02,229 --> 01:51:00,000
would be extremely meaningful to you and

2595
01:51:04,070 --> 01:51:02,239
i just said this to a guest to call her

2596
01:51:07,910 --> 01:51:04,080
today she was talking about all these

2597
01:51:10,870 --> 01:51:07,920
things that happened as signs i believe

2598
01:51:12,790 --> 01:51:10,880
when something whatever it is tries to

2599
01:51:15,750 --> 01:51:12,800
communicate with us many times they will

2600
01:51:16,950 --> 01:51:15,760
pick out things that are very meaningful

2601
01:51:18,790 --> 01:51:16,960
to maybe

2602
01:51:21,189 --> 01:51:18,800
jimmy church but might not be as

2603
01:51:25,030 --> 01:51:21,199
meaningful to jim it's tailored to the

2604
01:51:26,629 --> 01:51:25,040
person i believe that yeah and it was uh

2605
01:51:28,550 --> 01:51:26,639
now okay since we're telling these

2606
01:51:30,629 --> 01:51:28,560
stories and you just reminded me of

2607
01:51:31,830 --> 01:51:30,639
something with your wife this is better

2608
01:51:33,830 --> 01:51:31,840
than uh

2609
01:51:35,830 --> 01:51:33,840
it's better than the campfire

2610
01:51:38,950 --> 01:51:35,840
we're doing our own campfire

2611
01:51:40,470 --> 01:51:38,960
exactly okay all right i i didn't want

2612
01:51:41,830 --> 01:51:40,480
to share this because i don't want to

2613
01:51:46,950 --> 01:51:41,840
sound

2614
01:51:49,669 --> 01:51:46,960
kind of person but this is what happened

2615
01:51:52,550 --> 01:51:49,679
um i'm in bed i've got tv

2616
01:51:54,709 --> 01:51:52,560
uh it's after the show uh it's probably

2617
01:51:56,950 --> 01:51:54,719
one o'clock in the morning eating

2618
01:52:00,550 --> 01:51:56,960
watching a movie whatever i'm lying

2619
01:52:02,229 --> 01:52:00,560
sideways uh towards my nightstand i've

2620
01:52:03,510 --> 01:52:02,239
got a king-sized bed i'm in the middle

2621
01:52:07,030 --> 01:52:03,520
of the bed

2622
01:52:09,990 --> 01:52:07,040
and uh i've got an ipad that's on i've

2623
01:52:13,669 --> 01:52:10,000
got my my cell phone right here on the

2624
01:52:15,109 --> 01:52:13,679
bed a tv is i'm sideways

2625
01:52:17,430 --> 01:52:15,119
and

2626
01:52:18,709 --> 01:52:17,440
this is what happens i'm not making any

2627
01:52:20,310 --> 01:52:18,719
of this up

2628
01:52:23,830 --> 01:52:20,320
uh

2629
01:52:25,109 --> 01:52:23,840
something pushes on my back

2630
01:52:32,790 --> 01:52:25,119
and

2631
01:52:33,990 --> 01:52:32,800
was like a nudge for real

2632
01:52:36,470 --> 01:52:34,000
huh

2633
01:52:38,629 --> 01:52:36,480
and i wouldn't look

2634
01:52:40,070 --> 01:52:38,639
i i i just kept looking at the

2635
01:52:42,550 --> 01:52:40,080
nightstand

2636
01:52:44,470 --> 01:52:42,560
and ev was like that

2637
01:52:47,510 --> 01:52:44,480
wasn't right

2638
01:52:49,589 --> 01:52:47,520
and i'm alone in this big house right

2639
01:52:52,470 --> 01:52:49,599
and and and i

2640
01:52:53,510 --> 01:52:52,480
i was freaking myself out and i i you

2641
01:52:56,830 --> 01:52:53,520
know what

2642
01:52:59,750 --> 01:52:56,840
i didn't turn my head i stayed looking

2643
01:53:01,430 --> 01:52:59,760
forward and i wouldn't turn around i

2644
01:53:03,270 --> 01:53:01,440
didn't want to know i didn't want to see

2645
01:53:05,270 --> 01:53:03,280
i didn't want to experience it i didn't

2646
01:53:07,589 --> 01:53:05,280
want to do any of it i didn't want to

2647
01:53:09,990 --> 01:53:07,599
talk about it i didn't want to talk

2648
01:53:10,790 --> 01:53:10,000
about it on the show it's halloween but

2649
01:53:12,790 --> 01:53:10,800
uh

2650
01:53:14,149 --> 01:53:12,800
yeah well that reminds me of story and i

2651
01:53:16,070 --> 01:53:14,159
just literally pulled it up so we're

2652
01:53:17,990 --> 01:53:16,080
doing this in real time here

2653
01:53:21,030 --> 01:53:18,000
we're we're through the through the

2654
01:53:23,750 --> 01:53:21,040
looking glass here um julie from germany

2655
01:53:26,229 --> 01:53:23,760
called up in 2019 you just reminded me

2656
01:53:28,390 --> 01:53:26,239
of this story so this is i'm literally

2657
01:53:31,189 --> 01:53:28,400
looking at her story right now

2658
01:53:32,709 --> 01:53:31,199
and she said that her husband

2659
01:53:35,510 --> 01:53:32,719
now get this because it relates to your

2660
01:53:37,510 --> 01:53:35,520
story her husband is a senior officer in

2661
01:53:39,589 --> 01:53:37,520
the air force stationed in germany and a

2662
01:53:41,430 --> 01:53:39,599
couple of years ago

2663
01:53:44,229 --> 01:53:41,440
she was actually stationed in a base in

2664
01:53:46,310 --> 01:53:44,239
wyoming that dated back uh

2665
01:53:49,109 --> 01:53:46,320
way back in american history lots of old

2666
01:53:51,189 --> 01:53:49,119
buildings large historic housing many

2667
01:53:55,510 --> 01:53:51,199
hauntings on the base the home that they

2668
01:53:58,390 --> 01:53:55,520
were living in was built in nineteen

2669
01:54:00,149 --> 01:53:58,400
and they had a lot of kind of weird

2670
01:54:02,390 --> 01:54:00,159
things that

2671
01:54:03,830 --> 01:54:02,400
that that started happening

2672
01:54:05,430 --> 01:54:03,840
so um

2673
01:54:06,950 --> 01:54:05,440
her daughter was away for a couple

2674
01:54:09,270 --> 01:54:06,960
nights so it was just her and her

2675
01:54:11,830 --> 01:54:09,280
husband they'd gone to bed and then and

2676
01:54:13,910 --> 01:54:11,840
julie was sleeping soundly she got woken

2677
01:54:15,270 --> 01:54:13,920
up by somebody pulling her hair she said

2678
01:54:17,189 --> 01:54:15,280
she didn't move she just thought to

2679
01:54:18,870 --> 01:54:17,199
myself this is really happening went

2680
01:54:20,629 --> 01:54:18,880
back to sleep woke up sometime later

2681
01:54:23,430 --> 01:54:20,639
still dark outside

2682
01:54:25,030 --> 01:54:23,440
she said that she could feel her husband

2683
01:54:27,669 --> 01:54:25,040
spooning her

2684
01:54:29,830 --> 01:54:27,679
and she remembered wondering why he was

2685
01:54:31,030 --> 01:54:29,840
holding his arm around her so tightly it

2686
01:54:32,950 --> 01:54:31,040
almost hurt

2687
01:54:35,030 --> 01:54:32,960
a few minutes later a black mist started

2688
01:54:36,629 --> 01:54:35,040
to form in front of the fireplace by the

2689
01:54:38,709 --> 01:54:36,639
foot of the bed

2690
01:54:40,149 --> 01:54:38,719
the woman says i rebuke you in the name

2691
01:54:42,950 --> 01:54:40,159
of jesus

2692
01:54:45,030 --> 01:54:42,960
and she heard her husband say behind him

2693
01:54:45,990 --> 01:54:45,040
don't say that and she said it startled

2694
01:54:48,229 --> 01:54:46,000
him because

2695
01:54:49,270 --> 01:54:48,239
he she knew her husband wouldn't say

2696
01:54:51,430 --> 01:54:49,280
that

2697
01:54:53,830 --> 01:54:51,440
so she started slowly started to turn

2698
01:54:55,990 --> 01:54:53,840
over to her back to look at him suddenly

2699
01:54:57,990 --> 01:54:56,000
he was over me just a few inches from my

2700
01:55:01,189 --> 01:54:58,000
face and smiling except it wasn't my

2701
01:55:02,709 --> 01:55:01,199
husband but it looked like him though

2702
01:55:04,709 --> 01:55:02,719
even the hair on the chest it was an

2703
01:55:06,709 --> 01:55:04,719
eerie creepy version of my husband

2704
01:55:09,109 --> 01:55:06,719
something that was apparently trying to

2705
01:55:11,589 --> 01:55:09,119
impersonate him and take his place it

2706
01:55:13,750 --> 01:55:11,599
vanished and i immediately slew it back

2707
01:55:16,390 --> 01:55:13,760
and propped up on my pillow with my hip

2708
01:55:18,390 --> 01:55:16,400
turned up some and had my arm down at my

2709
01:55:20,310 --> 01:55:18,400
side with my hand resting

2710
01:55:22,470 --> 01:55:20,320
on my hip under the covers a few more

2711
01:55:25,270 --> 01:55:22,480
months later all three night lights in

2712
01:55:27,430 --> 01:55:25,280
the room dim simultaneously and i felt a

2713
01:55:30,070 --> 01:55:27,440
hand pick up my hand to begin to lift it

2714
01:55:31,910 --> 01:55:30,080
covers and all she yanked her hand back

2715
01:55:34,470 --> 01:55:31,920
and scooted back into her back was

2716
01:55:38,229 --> 01:55:34,480
against the headboard rebuked it again

2717
01:55:39,990 --> 01:55:38,239
and turned the lamp on it was 5 41.

2718
01:55:43,030 --> 01:55:40,000
her husband was going out for a run

2719
01:55:45,030 --> 01:55:43,040
which he did every morning at 5 00 am i

2720
01:55:47,350 --> 01:55:45,040
jumped up when i heard him come into the

2721
01:55:50,390 --> 01:55:47,360
house and ran to where he was

2722
01:55:53,030 --> 01:55:50,400
so apparently it wasn't her husband

2723
01:55:55,750 --> 01:55:53,040
it was this doppelganger this evil

2724
01:55:56,709 --> 01:55:55,760
dapper ganger who spooned with her oh

2725
01:56:02,870 --> 01:55:56,719
man

2726
01:56:03,910 --> 01:56:02,880
and then she said stuff will keep

2727
01:56:05,910 --> 01:56:03,920
happening

2728
01:56:07,990 --> 01:56:05,920
uh but eventually she starts like leave

2729
01:56:10,470 --> 01:56:08,000
me alone while i'm trying to

2730
01:56:13,109 --> 01:56:10,480
sleep and and she said she was very glad

2731
01:56:15,990 --> 01:56:13,119
to leave that uh leave that house

2732
01:56:18,070 --> 01:56:16,000
so yeah julie from germany had that one

2733
01:56:19,270 --> 01:56:18,080
to share and i kind of stumbled my way

2734
01:56:21,510 --> 01:56:19,280
through that but i had to share it

2735
01:56:23,830 --> 01:56:21,520
because it reminded me at least jimmy

2736
01:56:24,950 --> 01:56:23,840
the ghost wasn't spooning

2737
01:56:27,510 --> 01:56:24,960
oh man

2738
01:56:28,790 --> 01:56:27,520
that's a great story spooned by an

2739
01:56:30,229 --> 01:56:28,800
entity

2740
01:56:32,950 --> 01:56:30,239
yes and

2741
01:56:36,229 --> 01:56:32,960
yeah yeah that is l creepo

2742
01:56:39,990 --> 01:56:36,239
i um uh i don't know what my face was

2743
01:56:42,070 --> 01:56:40,000
like um uh when i got the nudge and it

2744
01:56:43,189 --> 01:56:42,080
was a very deliberate you know this

2745
01:56:45,510 --> 01:56:43,199
thing

2746
01:56:48,310 --> 01:56:45,520
but uh i i

2747
01:56:50,149 --> 01:56:48,320
i literally

2748
01:56:52,229 --> 01:56:50,159
diverted my eyes

2749
01:56:55,669 --> 01:56:52,239
i i didn't even want to go like that i

2750
01:56:58,390 --> 01:56:55,679
just stared straight forward and

2751
01:57:01,990 --> 01:56:58,400
and and really freaked myself out i mean

2752
01:57:03,830 --> 01:57:02,000
like in a bad way i i i didn't dig it i

2753
01:57:06,870 --> 01:57:03,840
didn't dig it and it was real

2754
01:57:09,030 --> 01:57:06,880
you know and we hear about uh

2755
01:57:10,950 --> 01:57:09,040
uh stories like this all the time you

2756
01:57:13,109 --> 01:57:10,960
know something touched me in in bed

2757
01:57:15,750 --> 01:57:13,119
something touched me here you know

2758
01:57:16,870 --> 01:57:15,760
and and sometimes we dismiss it too

2759
01:57:19,990 --> 01:57:16,880
quickly

2760
01:57:22,950 --> 01:57:20,000
and then when it happens to you

2761
01:57:25,669 --> 01:57:22,960
right that that was

2762
01:57:27,750 --> 01:57:25,679
uh that was something that uh i think

2763
01:57:30,870 --> 01:57:27,760
it's gonna stay with me for a while i've

2764
01:57:33,030 --> 01:57:30,880
uh i don't think i've ever really had

2765
01:57:34,709 --> 01:57:33,040
anything like that happen before maybe

2766
01:57:37,109 --> 01:57:34,719
years ago but

2767
01:57:38,790 --> 01:57:37,119
um i always had an excuse for it i was

2768
01:57:39,990 --> 01:57:38,800
sleeping with some somebody was already

2769
01:57:42,149 --> 01:57:40,000
in my bed

2770
01:57:46,070 --> 01:57:42,159
this time i was alone

2771
01:57:48,229 --> 01:57:46,080
um yeah and uh i'm starting to uh i

2772
01:57:51,270 --> 01:57:48,239
don't think my place is haunted

2773
01:57:53,510 --> 01:57:51,280
um i don't think so but uh the

2774
01:57:55,350 --> 01:57:53,520
neighborhood that i'm in

2775
01:57:56,950 --> 01:57:55,360
is quiet

2776
01:57:59,030 --> 01:57:56,960
quiet so

2777
01:58:01,270 --> 01:57:59,040
uh six o'clock at night seven o'clock at

2778
01:58:03,669 --> 01:58:01,280
night you can hear there's no traffic

2779
01:58:05,350 --> 01:58:03,679
there's no car noise there's nothing my

2780
01:58:07,510 --> 01:58:05,360
neighbors are quiet

2781
01:58:10,870 --> 01:58:07,520
and at night

2782
01:58:11,910 --> 01:58:10,880
it is dead quiet if everything is off in

2783
01:58:15,109 --> 01:58:11,920
the house

2784
01:58:17,350 --> 01:58:15,119
it is just absolutely quiet

2785
01:58:19,990 --> 01:58:17,360
and i've just been hearing things

2786
01:58:21,990 --> 01:58:20,000
you know and it's so quiet so so much

2787
01:58:25,350 --> 01:58:22,000
when something does

2788
01:58:27,109 --> 01:58:25,360
uh happen it's it's it's obvious

2789
01:58:29,109 --> 01:58:27,119
and and it's loud

2790
01:58:31,990 --> 01:58:29,119
um so i don't know i don't know i don't

2791
01:58:33,830 --> 01:58:32,000
know i don't know do you do you think uh

2792
01:58:35,350 --> 01:58:33,840
and i think i always do this i'm bad

2793
01:58:36,950 --> 01:58:35,360
about this because i'm turning the

2794
01:58:39,350 --> 01:58:36,960
tables and asking you questions but do

2795
01:58:42,310 --> 01:58:39,360
you think out of habit

2796
01:58:45,109 --> 01:58:42,320
do you think doing shows like this opens

2797
01:58:49,510 --> 01:58:45,119
people like us up 100

2798
01:58:52,709 --> 01:58:49,520
yeah 100 no i've always thought that

2799
01:58:55,350 --> 01:58:52,719
i've always thought that i have had

2800
01:58:56,149 --> 01:58:55,360
and i'm sure you've done this too uh so

2801
01:58:58,870 --> 01:58:56,159
uh

2802
01:58:59,669 --> 01:58:58,880
it's just you and i talking right now

2803
01:59:01,669 --> 01:58:59,679
jim

2804
01:59:02,790 --> 01:59:01,679
this and this audience

2805
01:59:04,229 --> 01:59:02,800
but

2806
01:59:07,189 --> 01:59:04,239
um

2807
01:59:09,189 --> 01:59:07,199
i have gone through shows

2808
01:59:11,510 --> 01:59:09,199
uh you know uh

2809
01:59:12,550 --> 01:59:11,520
the shows are three hours long

2810
01:59:15,189 --> 01:59:12,560
so

2811
01:59:17,510 --> 01:59:15,199
what happens with me during the show is

2812
01:59:20,790 --> 01:59:17,520
i'm not on the internet i'm not reading

2813
01:59:23,589 --> 01:59:20,800
i'm not surfing i'm talking to somebody

2814
01:59:26,470 --> 01:59:23,599
for three hours right and that allows

2815
01:59:29,669 --> 01:59:26,480
brain activity things are going on and

2816
01:59:31,589 --> 01:59:29,679
i'll end a show and these shows make me

2817
01:59:33,109 --> 01:59:31,599
think it's been a you know it's a two

2818
01:59:35,830 --> 01:59:33,119
and a half hour conversation with

2819
01:59:38,470 --> 01:59:35,840
somebody i'm learning my brain is

2820
01:59:41,030 --> 01:59:38,480
working it's active and i turn around

2821
01:59:44,390 --> 01:59:41,040
after the show and i have had

2822
01:59:47,910 --> 01:59:44,400
some pretty amazing thoughts and dreams

2823
01:59:50,310 --> 01:59:47,920
and synchronicities after the show where

2824
01:59:53,910 --> 01:59:50,320
i i can't deny

2825
01:59:55,990 --> 01:59:53,920
that that i'm i'm now uh susceptible i

2826
01:59:57,510 --> 01:59:56,000
think you know what i mean the door is

2827
02:00:00,790 --> 01:59:57,520
cracked open

2828
02:00:03,510 --> 02:00:00,800
and you're allowing these things in and

2829
02:00:04,950 --> 02:00:03,520
i i absolutely believe that i'm sure

2830
02:00:06,310 --> 02:00:04,960
that you've had the same things happen

2831
02:00:08,229 --> 02:00:06,320
to you

2832
02:00:11,510 --> 02:00:08,239
yeah i mean i've had more stuff happen

2833
02:00:12,390 --> 02:00:11,520
to me since i've started these shows

2834
02:00:24,550 --> 02:00:12,400
i

2835
02:00:26,550 --> 02:00:24,560
that

2836
02:00:28,070 --> 02:00:26,560
you're out there in the dark man

2837
02:00:30,070 --> 02:00:28,080
you know you're at the edge of the cliff

2838
02:00:30,950 --> 02:00:30,080
and you got your foot out there in front

2839
02:00:32,790 --> 02:00:30,960
of you

2840
02:00:34,440 --> 02:00:32,800
you know and you're feeling the edge of

2841
02:00:36,390 --> 02:00:34,450
the cliff and you know it's there

2842
02:00:38,149 --> 02:00:36,400
[Laughter]

2843
02:00:39,430 --> 02:00:38,159
you're you're pushing it

2844
02:00:41,830 --> 02:00:39,440
you know you're pushing it do you want

2845
02:00:43,189 --> 02:00:41,840
to take that extra step and and i think

2846
02:00:45,430 --> 02:00:43,199
that you do

2847
02:00:47,669 --> 02:00:45,440
yeah and you know some things make me

2848
02:00:51,589 --> 02:00:47,679
uncomfortable um i'll tell quickly a

2849
02:00:53,669 --> 02:00:51,599
story um i i did uh a show with the the

2850
02:00:55,830 --> 02:00:53,679
late great rose mary ellen gilly and i

2851
02:00:57,589 --> 02:00:55,840
really mean that she was she was amazing

2852
02:00:59,990 --> 02:00:57,599
amazing favorite all-time guest she was

2853
02:01:03,589 --> 02:01:00,000
on the show 20 times literally

2854
02:01:06,550 --> 02:01:03,599
and one show that she was on

2855
02:01:09,830 --> 02:01:06,560
we did an interview on the gin

2856
02:01:13,270 --> 02:01:09,840
and she sent me a book on the gin

2857
02:01:15,669 --> 02:01:13,280
uh and uh we did the interview and later

2858
02:01:17,030 --> 02:01:15,679
that day i got a phone call that my

2859
02:01:19,830 --> 02:01:17,040
uncle died

2860
02:01:22,070 --> 02:01:19,840
and again he was ill but i don't think

2861
02:01:24,550 --> 02:01:22,080
anybody expected him to die or at least

2862
02:01:27,189 --> 02:01:24,560
i didn't he died two weeks later my mom

2863
02:01:28,790 --> 02:01:27,199
died and the only time because rosemary

2864
02:01:29,669 --> 02:01:28,800
was very kind and always sent me her

2865
02:01:31,350 --> 02:01:29,679
books

2866
02:01:33,830 --> 02:01:31,360
uh i kept every single one of them

2867
02:01:36,149 --> 02:01:33,840
except for one i got rid of the gen book

2868
02:01:39,030 --> 02:01:36,159
it was just a little too close to home

2869
02:01:41,910 --> 02:01:39,040
probably a total coincidence

2870
02:01:43,350 --> 02:01:41,920
you know but it was just a little too

2871
02:01:45,589 --> 02:01:43,360
close to home

2872
02:01:48,709 --> 02:01:45,599
she wrote me

2873
02:01:51,270 --> 02:01:48,719
or called me and she was

2874
02:01:53,750 --> 02:01:51,280
going to drive through la

2875
02:01:55,910 --> 02:01:53,760
and she wanted to drop off a scrying

2876
02:01:58,950 --> 02:01:55,920
mirror as a gift

2877
02:01:59,990 --> 02:01:58,960
and and i was looking forward to it and

2878
02:02:01,910 --> 02:02:00,000
and then

2879
02:02:03,430 --> 02:02:01,920
she called back and said i've got to go

2880
02:02:04,629 --> 02:02:03,440
somewhere else

2881
02:02:14,390 --> 02:02:04,639
and

2882
02:02:18,229 --> 02:02:14,400
yeah she was the nicest person

2883
02:02:20,709 --> 02:02:18,239
her death was like yeah it was so sudden

2884
02:02:23,350 --> 02:02:20,719
i think uh yeah it was it was really

2885
02:02:25,350 --> 02:02:23,360
really sudden and sad and

2886
02:02:26,629 --> 02:02:25,360
just the nicest person i thought i was

2887
02:02:27,990 --> 02:02:26,639
the i want to make this quick i know

2888
02:02:29,430 --> 02:02:28,000
we're coming up against a break but i

2889
02:02:31,669 --> 02:02:29,440
always thought boy she must really like

2890
02:02:33,910 --> 02:02:31,679
me she is so nice

2891
02:02:36,229 --> 02:02:33,920
but then i found out she was that way to

2892
02:02:37,830 --> 02:02:36,239
everyone she was that way with everyone

2893
02:02:40,229 --> 02:02:37,840
was so

2894
02:02:42,550 --> 02:02:40,239
nice i think i could say without

2895
02:02:44,470 --> 02:02:42,560
reservation she was the nicest person

2896
02:02:46,709 --> 02:02:44,480
and you're great jimmy and a lot of

2897
02:02:48,470 --> 02:02:46,719
great people nice people but i think

2898
02:02:50,550 --> 02:02:48,480
she's the nicest person i've met in this

2899
02:02:52,390 --> 02:02:50,560
field bar none she was just uh she's

2900
02:02:54,870 --> 02:02:52,400
just a sweet sweet person yeah she was

2901
02:02:57,669 --> 02:02:54,880
so cool to hang out with and

2902
02:03:00,950 --> 02:02:57,679
so smart well see that this is the thing

2903
02:03:03,990 --> 02:03:00,960
about uh rosemary um there's a lot of

2904
02:03:05,030 --> 02:03:04,000
smart people uh in the paranormal world

2905
02:03:09,669 --> 02:03:05,040
and

2906
02:03:10,470 --> 02:03:09,679
uh but i think all of them will tell you

2907
02:03:13,830 --> 02:03:10,480
that

2908
02:03:16,470 --> 02:03:13,840
rosemary was way up here when it came to

2909
02:03:19,270 --> 02:03:16,480
knowledge of these subjects

2910
02:03:21,189 --> 02:03:19,280
and uh and she was so admired uh with

2911
02:03:24,629 --> 02:03:21,199
her intelligence but

2912
02:03:27,109 --> 02:03:24,639
coupled with just cool she's just a cool

2913
02:03:29,589 --> 02:03:27,119
person and you know what i hope she's

2914
02:03:31,990 --> 02:03:29,599
listening right now rosemary strum a

2915
02:03:34,229 --> 02:03:32,000
guitar for me let's take a break right

2916
02:03:35,750 --> 02:03:34,239
here this is fade to black all right

2917
02:03:37,669 --> 02:03:35,760
jimmy church halloween ghost stories

2918
02:03:39,669 --> 02:03:37,679
night with jim harold we're gonna get

2919
02:03:41,510 --> 02:03:39,679
back to some stories right after this

2920
02:03:44,390 --> 02:03:41,520
short break stay with us on the game

2921
02:03:45,270 --> 02:03:44,400
changer network and kjcr as of sunday

2922
02:03:52,149 --> 02:03:45,280
night

2923
02:03:59,109 --> 02:03:53,149
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2924
02:04:03,030 --> 02:04:00,950
why is it we're not very good with our

2925
02:04:04,790 --> 02:04:03,040
health regiment until it's too late we

2926
02:04:06,629 --> 02:04:04,800
don't put oil in the car until the

2927
02:04:09,430 --> 02:04:06,639
engine blows up when the body's out of

2928
02:04:11,669 --> 02:04:09,440
balance your health is not so good give

2929
02:04:14,629 --> 02:04:11,679
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2930
02:04:16,629 --> 02:04:14,639
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2931
02:04:19,750 --> 02:04:16,639
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2932
02:04:21,589 --> 02:04:19,760
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2933
02:04:23,589 --> 02:04:21,599
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2934
02:04:25,669 --> 02:04:23,599
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2935
02:04:28,390 --> 02:04:25,679
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2936
02:04:30,790 --> 02:04:28,400
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2938
02:04:35,189 --> 02:04:32,960
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2939
02:04:37,589 --> 02:04:35,199
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2940
02:04:39,910 --> 02:04:37,599
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2941
02:04:41,990 --> 02:04:39,920
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2942
02:04:45,350 --> 02:04:42,000
for short helpful health tips go to

2943
02:04:48,310 --> 02:04:45,360
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2944
02:04:49,510 --> 02:04:48,320
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2945
02:04:50,830 --> 02:04:49,520
so

2946
02:04:53,669 --> 02:04:50,840
log on to

2947
02:04:56,629 --> 02:04:53,679
gettatee.com get balanced then learn

2948
02:04:58,390 --> 02:04:56,639
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2949
02:05:00,229 --> 02:04:58,400
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2950
02:05:02,069 --> 02:05:00,239
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2951
02:05:05,430 --> 02:05:02,079
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2952
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2953
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2954
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2955
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2956
02:05:18,709 --> 02:05:16,000
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2957
02:05:21,430 --> 02:05:18,719
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2958
02:05:22,940 --> 02:05:21,440
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2959
02:05:26,870 --> 02:05:22,950
make contact

2960
02:05:31,669 --> 02:05:28,709
when you're in the house for longer

2961
02:05:35,830 --> 02:05:31,679
periods of time you can see them flying

2962
02:05:39,109 --> 02:05:35,840
or running across the floor ooh yuck

2963
02:05:43,430 --> 02:05:39,119
they're unhealthy gross and disgusting

2964
02:05:46,550 --> 02:05:43,440
bugs i loathe bugs we keep a clean home

2965
02:05:48,629 --> 02:05:46,560
but occasionally bugs show up well i

2966
02:05:52,470 --> 02:05:48,639
found something that is tougher than

2967
02:05:55,750 --> 02:05:52,480
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2968
02:05:59,350 --> 02:05:55,760
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2969
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2970
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2971
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2972
02:06:08,709 --> 02:06:06,400
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2973
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2974
02:06:14,390 --> 02:06:12,480
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2976
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2977
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2978
02:06:25,430 --> 02:06:22,159
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2979
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2980
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2981
02:06:31,910 --> 02:06:30,079
when people aren't sure aren't sure

2982
02:06:34,709 --> 02:06:31,920
about the government the stock market

2983
02:06:37,430 --> 02:06:34,719
their jobs or their retirement savings

2984
02:06:39,350 --> 02:06:37,440
our national debt is skyrocketing gold

2985
02:06:41,510 --> 02:06:39,360
and other precious metals are a defense

2986
02:06:44,310 --> 02:06:41,520
measure against inflation and a stock

2987
02:06:46,550 --> 02:06:44,320
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2988
02:06:48,870 --> 02:06:46,560
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2989
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2990
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2991
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2992
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3000
02:07:33,189 --> 02:07:31,350
[Applause]

3001
02:07:37,030 --> 02:07:33,199
you wanna know a secret

3002
02:07:38,390 --> 02:07:37,040
i love ponies i really love ponies i'm

3003
02:07:40,550 --> 02:07:38,400
serious

3004
02:07:41,990 --> 02:07:40,560
i couldn't stay sane without pawn mr

3005
02:07:43,990 --> 02:07:42,000
brush

3006
02:07:50,470 --> 02:07:44,000
why fade to black

3007
02:07:56,510 --> 02:07:52,709
this is fade to black with jimmy church

3008
02:08:08,790 --> 02:07:56,520
on the game changer radio network

3009
02:08:10,950 --> 02:08:08,800
[Music]

3010
02:08:12,709 --> 02:08:10,960
welcome back fade to black i am your

3011
02:08:14,709 --> 02:08:12,719
host jimmy church tonight halloween

3012
02:08:15,490 --> 02:08:14,719
ghost stories with jim harold

3013
02:08:16,870 --> 02:08:15,500
and

3014
02:08:21,430 --> 02:08:16,880
[Music]

3015
02:08:24,149 --> 02:08:21,440
i did get nudged i i did get nudged i um

3016
02:08:29,109 --> 02:08:26,790
i don't want to be

3017
02:08:32,550 --> 02:08:29,119
the person that tells these stories jim

3018
02:08:33,830 --> 02:08:32,560
i i don't i don't and i find myself

3019
02:08:36,629 --> 02:08:33,840
uh

3020
02:08:38,790 --> 02:08:36,639
when something like this happens i i i i

3021
02:08:41,669 --> 02:08:38,800
i don't want to share it i don't want to

3022
02:08:45,189 --> 02:08:41,679
be that person but i got nudged and i

3023
02:08:48,470 --> 02:08:45,199
didn't want to look and i was scared

3024
02:08:50,629 --> 02:08:48,480
yeah yeah i mean it scares you

3025
02:08:52,390 --> 02:08:50,639
you know we're only human i mean we talk

3026
02:08:55,030 --> 02:08:52,400
about these things but that doesn't mean

3027
02:08:56,870 --> 02:08:55,040
that we're impervious to them if they

3028
02:08:59,270 --> 02:08:56,880
happen to us particularly the scary

3029
02:09:00,950 --> 02:08:59,280
stuff i've never really had a lot of

3030
02:09:02,870 --> 02:09:00,960
scary stuff per se but i don't want to

3031
02:09:04,950 --> 02:09:02,880
say that too loudly

3032
02:09:07,510 --> 02:09:04,960
it'll

3033
02:09:08,550 --> 02:09:07,520
yeah exactly exactly all right what's

3034
02:09:09,350 --> 02:09:08,560
next

3035
02:09:11,990 --> 02:09:09,360
well

3036
02:09:13,910 --> 02:09:12,000
you know i love uh to your point about

3037
02:09:16,069 --> 02:09:13,920
not being the one kind of person who

3038
02:09:18,550 --> 02:09:16,079
tells those stories i love it when

3039
02:09:20,069 --> 02:09:18,560
someone who you think would be a skeptic

3040
02:09:21,510 --> 02:09:20,079
or a scientist

3041
02:09:23,109 --> 02:09:21,520
tells their stories and this one

3042
02:09:25,270 --> 02:09:23,119
actually is from the uk and was quite a

3043
02:09:27,669 --> 02:09:25,280
few years ago on the show and it was

3044
02:09:29,910 --> 02:09:27,679
about this physician his name was farbad

3045
02:09:31,430 --> 02:09:29,920
he was in the uk

3046
02:09:34,470 --> 02:09:31,440
and he was training

3047
02:09:36,310 --> 02:09:34,480
you know he he hadn't made he hadn't

3048
02:09:38,709 --> 02:09:36,320
qualified i guess they called fully but

3049
02:09:40,470 --> 02:09:38,719
he was qualified to work on patience but

3050
02:09:43,189 --> 02:09:40,480
he hadn't fully made it

3051
02:09:44,149 --> 02:09:43,199
to the full rank uh i guess

3052
02:09:46,790 --> 02:09:44,159
uh

3053
02:09:49,669 --> 02:09:46,800
like a residency i guess so anyway he

3054
02:09:51,750 --> 02:09:49,679
was working in this emergency department

3055
02:09:53,430 --> 02:09:51,760
and he was uh

3056
02:09:56,229 --> 02:09:53,440
in the the

3057
02:09:58,550 --> 02:09:56,239
the bottom floor of the hospital

3058
02:10:00,950 --> 02:09:58,560
all of a sudden there's a cold blue

3059
02:10:03,910 --> 02:10:00,960
cardiac arrest call

3060
02:10:06,629 --> 02:10:03,920
you gotta go up uh like to the third or

3061
02:10:09,189 --> 02:10:06,639
uh like fourth or fifth floor

3062
02:10:10,950 --> 02:10:09,199
where the the cardiac ward goes

3063
02:10:12,870 --> 02:10:10,960
and he goes and he's running up the

3064
02:10:14,629 --> 02:10:12,880
stairs and all of a sudden he gets to

3065
02:10:15,990 --> 02:10:14,639
about the third floor and he sees this

3066
02:10:18,310 --> 02:10:16,000
patient

3067
02:10:20,790 --> 02:10:18,320
come into the corridor

3068
02:10:22,870 --> 02:10:20,800
and the patient is naked from the waist

3069
02:10:24,229 --> 02:10:22,880
down

3070
02:10:25,910 --> 02:10:24,239
and he's like

3071
02:10:27,669 --> 02:10:25,920
i don't have time to mess with this guy

3072
02:10:29,669 --> 02:10:27,679
i've got to get to this this patient

3073
02:10:31,510 --> 02:10:29,679
somebody's like coding up on the fifth

3074
02:10:33,910 --> 02:10:31,520
floor i got to get to him

3075
02:10:35,510 --> 02:10:33,920
so he kindly guides the man

3076
02:10:37,510 --> 02:10:35,520
into the hallway and he calls down to

3077
02:10:39,589 --> 02:10:37,520
the nurses can somebody please take care

3078
02:10:41,510 --> 02:10:39,599
of this man can somebody take care of

3079
02:10:44,550 --> 02:10:41,520
him do something with him i've got to go

3080
02:10:45,510 --> 02:10:44,560
upstairs and deal with an emergency

3081
02:10:47,030 --> 02:10:45,520
so

3082
02:10:48,470 --> 02:10:47,040
he doesn't think any more about goes the

3083
02:10:51,589 --> 02:10:48,480
next two steps

3084
02:10:54,310 --> 02:10:51,599
but when he walks into the room

3085
02:10:57,830 --> 02:10:54,320
he's shocked at what he sees

3086
02:10:59,910 --> 02:10:57,840
he sees a patient flatlining

3087
02:11:02,950 --> 02:10:59,920
and that patient

3088
02:11:04,790 --> 02:11:02,960
in his late 60s early 70s

3089
02:11:07,189 --> 02:11:04,800
is exactly

3090
02:11:08,390 --> 02:11:07,199
the same man

3091
02:11:12,709 --> 02:11:08,400
wearing

3092
02:11:16,069 --> 02:11:12,719
the same shirt flat lining in that bed

3093
02:11:19,510 --> 02:11:17,910
um

3094
02:11:20,790 --> 02:11:19,520
when he went

3095
02:11:22,550 --> 02:11:20,800
came back down once the man was

3096
02:11:24,950 --> 02:11:22,560
pronounced dead he went and asked the

3097
02:11:26,709 --> 02:11:24,960
nurses did you see a man here the man i

3098
02:11:28,629 --> 02:11:26,719
told you about and said we heard you

3099
02:11:31,430 --> 02:11:28,639
yelling about something we came out

3100
02:11:32,470 --> 02:11:31,440
we didn't see any man

3101
02:11:35,830 --> 02:11:32,480
so

3102
02:11:38,390 --> 02:11:35,840
if you take it at face value

3103
02:11:39,430 --> 02:11:38,400
it uh basically

3104
02:11:46,149 --> 02:11:39,440
uh

3105
02:11:52,470 --> 02:11:47,910
wow

3106
02:11:53,669 --> 02:11:52,480
yeah and i love that there's a there's a

3107
02:11:56,390 --> 02:11:53,679
doctor

3108
02:11:58,310 --> 02:11:56,400
scott kolbaba is his name

3109
02:12:00,629 --> 02:11:58,320
and he did a book

3110
02:12:02,950 --> 02:12:00,639
called physician stories now it was more

3111
02:12:05,430 --> 02:12:02,960
about miracle stories about people who

3112
02:12:07,189 --> 02:12:05,440
weren't supposed to live but lived i

3113
02:12:09,990 --> 02:12:07,199
remember the book yes yeah and he had

3114
02:12:12,069 --> 02:12:10,000
something like two dozen doctors

3115
02:12:15,109 --> 02:12:12,079
to do these stories

3116
02:12:18,229 --> 02:12:15,119
and put their names to them

3117
02:12:20,550 --> 02:12:18,239
and i thought that was remarkable

3118
02:12:22,709 --> 02:12:20,560
because we know people in medical

3119
02:12:25,109 --> 02:12:22,719
situations they see people at the point

3120
02:12:26,870 --> 02:12:25,119
of death and they see a lot of things

3121
02:12:27,990 --> 02:12:26,880
and we've had quite a few callers over

3122
02:12:29,830 --> 02:12:28,000
the years

3123
02:12:31,270 --> 02:12:29,840
to campfire who are in the medical

3124
02:12:32,229 --> 02:12:31,280
profession have talked about different

3125
02:12:34,550 --> 02:12:32,239
things

3126
02:12:36,790 --> 02:12:34,560
and to me that's even more proof that

3127
02:12:38,629 --> 02:12:36,800
there really is life after death and you

3128
02:12:41,669 --> 02:12:38,639
know our physical presence that's not

3129
02:12:43,350 --> 02:12:41,679
the whole ball of wax i think that uh

3130
02:12:46,149 --> 02:12:43,360
uh

3131
02:12:48,310 --> 02:12:46,159
most medical professionals

3132
02:12:51,350 --> 02:12:48,320
uh because you go through the sciences

3133
02:12:52,470 --> 02:12:51,360
and you go through all of that

3134
02:12:55,270 --> 02:12:52,480
where

3135
02:12:56,550 --> 02:12:55,280
um and physicists too as well the hard

3136
02:12:56,900 --> 02:12:56,560
sciences

3137
02:12:58,229 --> 02:12:56,910
um

3138
02:13:02,310 --> 02:12:58,239
[Music]

3139
02:13:04,310 --> 02:13:02,320
they aren't spiritual at first right and

3140
02:13:06,229 --> 02:13:04,320
that's just the world that they're in

3141
02:13:10,069 --> 02:13:06,239
and that's that's fine

3142
02:13:11,750 --> 02:13:10,079
but it's those medical professionals are

3143
02:13:14,629 --> 02:13:11,760
are the ones that

3144
02:13:17,189 --> 02:13:14,639
get moved the most because they go

3145
02:13:19,750 --> 02:13:17,199
through these near-death experiences

3146
02:13:20,550 --> 02:13:19,760
they go through this unexplainable

3147
02:13:22,390 --> 02:13:20,560
uh

3148
02:13:24,950 --> 02:13:22,400
situations in

3149
02:13:27,350 --> 02:13:24,960
in operating rooms in emergency rooms

3150
02:13:29,270 --> 02:13:27,360
and somebody flatlining and

3151
02:13:31,109 --> 02:13:29,280
and and they know

3152
02:13:34,149 --> 02:13:31,119
what is going on

3153
02:13:35,350 --> 02:13:34,159
and then something unexplainable happens

3154
02:13:36,149 --> 02:13:35,360
later

3155
02:13:40,550 --> 02:13:36,159
where

3156
02:13:43,189 --> 02:13:40,560
they know their pragmatic mind right

3157
02:13:46,229 --> 02:13:43,199
the the black and white world of science

3158
02:13:49,030 --> 02:13:46,239
suddenly gets shifted

3159
02:13:50,310 --> 02:13:49,040
and they are the best they are the best

3160
02:13:52,069 --> 02:13:50,320
examples

3161
02:13:54,870 --> 02:13:52,079
of of people that

3162
02:13:56,950 --> 02:13:54,880
will share something like this

3163
02:13:59,030 --> 02:13:56,960
that is totally unexplainable and they

3164
02:14:01,350 --> 02:13:59,040
will say look

3165
02:14:03,510 --> 02:14:01,360
i wasn't spiritual before

3166
02:14:06,149 --> 02:14:03,520
but i can't explain

3167
02:14:08,390 --> 02:14:06,159
this and i totally agree with you it's

3168
02:14:11,430 --> 02:14:08,400
those doctors and those nurses out there

3169
02:14:14,229 --> 02:14:11,440
that experience these things firsthand

3170
02:14:15,189 --> 02:14:14,239
right and uh i i couldn't agree with you

3171
02:14:17,109 --> 02:14:15,199
more

3172
02:14:18,629 --> 02:14:17,119
yeah one of the best books that i've

3173
02:14:19,990 --> 02:14:18,639
seen on this topic and one of my

3174
02:14:22,550 --> 02:14:20,000
favorite interviews i've done in the

3175
02:14:25,430 --> 02:14:22,560
last year uh we may have even talked

3176
02:14:27,189 --> 02:14:25,440
about in the last show dr bruce grayson

3177
02:14:29,109 --> 02:14:27,199
he did a book called after a doctor

3178
02:14:31,750 --> 02:14:29,119
explores what near-death experiences

3179
02:14:34,550 --> 02:14:31,760
reveal about life and beyond and he told

3180
02:14:35,990 --> 02:14:34,560
this story when he was very uh young in

3181
02:14:39,270 --> 02:14:36,000
his career

3182
02:14:41,510 --> 02:14:39,280
that he had gone to lunch

3183
02:14:44,390 --> 02:14:41,520
and

3184
02:14:45,750 --> 02:14:44,400
he had gotten spaghetti sauce

3185
02:14:47,910 --> 02:14:45,760
on his tie

3186
02:14:50,310 --> 02:14:47,920
but he was trying to hide it and so

3187
02:14:53,109 --> 02:14:50,320
forth because he had to go on a consult

3188
02:14:54,550 --> 02:14:53,119
there was this young girl who had

3189
02:14:56,709 --> 02:14:54,560
i don't know if she overdosed or

3190
02:14:59,109 --> 02:14:56,719
something happened

3191
02:14:59,910 --> 02:14:59,119
and he had to go talk he was called in

3192
02:15:01,589 --> 02:14:59,920
and

3193
02:15:04,310 --> 02:15:01,599
you know did the examination wherever

3194
02:15:05,360 --> 02:15:04,320
and came back and talked to the family

3195
02:15:06,709 --> 02:15:05,370
and uh

3196
02:15:09,189 --> 02:15:06,719
[Music]

3197
02:15:11,510 --> 02:15:09,199
and luckily the girl recovered but she

3198
02:15:12,790 --> 02:15:11,520
was she basically looked like she was

3199
02:15:15,510 --> 02:15:12,800
gonna die

3200
02:15:18,069 --> 02:15:15,520
um and i think she you know they kind of

3201
02:15:19,990 --> 02:15:18,079
brought her back kind of thing

3202
02:15:20,950 --> 02:15:20,000
and the next day she's talking to the

3203
02:15:23,189 --> 02:15:20,960
doctor

3204
02:15:25,189 --> 02:15:23,199
uh and he's saying well i'm glad you

3205
02:15:27,189 --> 02:15:25,199
made it through blah blah blah this is

3206
02:15:29,270 --> 02:15:27,199
the story's the best as i recall it and

3207
02:15:31,510 --> 02:15:29,280
she says oh and she's talking with him

3208
02:15:34,149 --> 02:15:31,520
she said oh by the way did you get the

3209
02:15:36,550 --> 02:15:34,159
spaghetti stain off your tie i read that

3210
02:15:38,229 --> 02:15:36,560
in the book yeah it's one of the it's

3211
02:15:41,030 --> 02:15:38,239
one of it's one of the more incredible

3212
02:15:43,270 --> 02:15:41,040
stories i just had bob davis dr bob

3213
02:15:46,870 --> 02:15:43,280
davis on the show yeah yeah yeah he's

3214
02:15:48,149 --> 02:15:46,880
he's amazing uh and and his research

3215
02:15:51,589 --> 02:15:48,159
into this

3216
02:15:54,790 --> 02:15:51,599
is incredible and he's got one example

3217
02:15:57,350 --> 02:15:54,800
after another of these medical pro

3218
02:15:58,310 --> 02:15:57,360
professionals going through

3219
02:16:00,870 --> 02:15:58,320
uh

3220
02:16:03,589 --> 02:16:00,880
these situations where

3221
02:16:07,270 --> 02:16:03,599
there is no way

3222
02:16:10,870 --> 02:16:07,280
that this person who was brought back

3223
02:16:13,669 --> 02:16:10,880
from the dead right

3224
02:16:17,669 --> 02:16:13,679
that they they would know these things

3225
02:16:19,750 --> 02:16:17,679
and and one of the examples uh

3226
02:16:22,149 --> 02:16:19,760
that i don't think bob told the story on

3227
02:16:23,589 --> 02:16:22,159
the air but it was uh off the air and i

3228
02:16:26,870 --> 02:16:23,599
saw this with a

3229
02:16:28,870 --> 02:16:26,880
a piece of film uh i i can't get into it

3230
02:16:30,069 --> 02:16:28,880
he's making a documentary but he tells

3231
02:16:31,030 --> 02:16:30,079
the story

3232
02:16:35,110 --> 02:16:31,040
um

3233
02:16:37,509 --> 02:16:35,120
that uh this uh this person

3234
02:16:38,629 --> 02:16:37,519
uh died come back died come back and was

3235
02:16:39,910 --> 02:16:38,639
now dead

3236
02:16:45,669 --> 02:16:39,920
uh

3237
02:16:49,110 --> 02:16:45,679
and meanwhile

3238
02:16:50,950 --> 02:16:49,120
one of the nurses

3239
02:16:52,950 --> 02:16:50,960
drops

3240
02:16:56,230 --> 02:16:52,960
a scalpel

3241
02:16:58,709 --> 02:16:56,240
whatever something on the floor

3242
02:17:01,349 --> 02:16:58,719
and put it bent over picked it up and

3243
02:17:04,629 --> 02:17:01,359
put it back in the tray now it's not

3244
02:17:07,349 --> 02:17:04,639
sterilized right right but the nurse did

3245
02:17:08,870 --> 02:17:07,359
it behind everybody's back

3246
02:17:10,709 --> 02:17:08,880
right

3247
02:17:11,349 --> 02:17:10,719
this person comes back

3248
02:17:12,950 --> 02:17:11,359
and

3249
02:17:14,469 --> 02:17:12,960
the next day or two days later is

3250
02:17:15,830 --> 02:17:14,479
talking to the nurse

3251
02:17:18,629 --> 02:17:15,840
saying

3252
02:17:19,750 --> 02:17:18,639
i saw you pick that utensil up off the

3253
02:17:23,349 --> 02:17:19,760
floor

3254
02:17:29,830 --> 02:17:26,629
while you know and and the nurse knows

3255
02:17:31,750 --> 02:17:29,840
what happened right

3256
02:17:33,750 --> 02:17:31,760
patient is dead

3257
02:17:34,950 --> 02:17:33,760
eyes closed

3258
02:17:38,549 --> 02:17:34,960
nurse thinks

3259
02:17:40,070 --> 02:17:38,559
she's gotten away with something right

3260
02:17:42,389 --> 02:17:40,080
and

3261
02:17:43,910 --> 02:17:42,399
how do you explain that yeah it's uh

3262
02:17:45,589 --> 02:17:43,920
that old saw

3263
02:17:47,750 --> 02:17:45,599
it's not what you do when somebody's

3264
02:17:50,629 --> 02:17:47,760
looking it's when what you do when you

3265
02:17:53,509 --> 02:17:50,639
don't think anybody's looking right

3266
02:17:56,549 --> 02:17:53,519
i don't know i i mean to me the the the

3267
02:17:58,070 --> 02:17:56,559
answer and that's the thing and i i've

3268
02:17:59,830 --> 02:17:58,080
talked to so many people about this so

3269
02:18:01,429 --> 02:17:59,840
if i'm repeating this from a previous

3270
02:18:02,629 --> 02:18:01,439
show i apologize

3271
02:18:05,429 --> 02:18:02,639
but to me when you look at these

3272
02:18:07,750 --> 02:18:05,439
near-death experiences particularly

3273
02:18:09,669 --> 02:18:07,760
when you look at the situation where

3274
02:18:11,669 --> 02:18:09,679
people can account

3275
02:18:13,270 --> 02:18:11,679
of things that they should not be able

3276
02:18:14,709 --> 02:18:13,280
to see they can see the treatments are

3277
02:18:16,389 --> 02:18:14,719
being done they can see the spaghetti

3278
02:18:19,990 --> 02:18:16,399
sauce stain they can see the nurse

3279
02:18:22,950 --> 02:18:20,000
putting the dirty implement scalpel back

3280
02:18:25,030 --> 02:18:22,960
on the supposedly sterile tray and these

3281
02:18:26,870 --> 02:18:25,040
people are quote dead

3282
02:18:29,190 --> 02:18:26,880
or unconscious at the very least but

3283
02:18:30,070 --> 02:18:29,200
they can see many times from an aerial

3284
02:18:33,110 --> 02:18:30,080
view

3285
02:18:35,270 --> 02:18:33,120
you know skeptics explain dopamine

3286
02:18:37,429 --> 02:18:35,280
and you know it's the throes of a dying

3287
02:18:39,589 --> 02:18:37,439
brain trying to comfort you and all this

3288
02:18:41,509 --> 02:18:39,599
stuff and while that's all well and good

3289
02:18:43,669 --> 02:18:41,519
how do you explain that scalpel how do

3290
02:18:47,830 --> 02:18:43,679
you explain that spaghetti sauce how do

3291
02:18:51,030 --> 02:18:47,840
you explain oh i saw we had one where

3292
02:18:53,830 --> 02:18:51,040
this was a campfire caller that

3293
02:18:56,549 --> 02:18:53,840
she was part of a life flight team

3294
02:18:59,190 --> 02:18:56,559
and she flew this guy no no no just a

3295
02:19:01,910 --> 02:18:59,200
regular paramedic i'm sorry i think and

3296
02:19:03,669 --> 02:19:01,920
anyway she had a gold jacket

3297
02:19:06,070 --> 02:19:03,679
and uh

3298
02:19:07,669 --> 02:19:06,080
this guy was totally out and they got

3299
02:19:09,750 --> 02:19:07,679
him to the hospital

3300
02:19:10,629 --> 02:19:09,760
and he came back but he never at any

3301
02:19:12,870 --> 02:19:10,639
point

3302
02:19:13,830 --> 02:19:12,880
was conscious to see her in the gold

3303
02:19:16,870 --> 02:19:13,840
jacket

3304
02:19:18,150 --> 02:19:16,880
so years later somehow she

3305
02:19:20,709 --> 02:19:18,160
met him

3306
02:19:21,910 --> 02:19:20,719
and he said oh i wanted to tell you

3307
02:19:24,230 --> 02:19:21,920
uh

3308
02:19:26,389 --> 02:19:24,240
somehow came around i remember you and i

3309
02:19:27,750 --> 02:19:26,399
specifically remember your gold jacket

3310
02:19:29,750 --> 02:19:27,760
and there's no way he would have known

3311
02:19:31,429 --> 02:19:29,760
that no way you would have known that

3312
02:19:33,429 --> 02:19:31,439
how did the skeptics explain that the

3313
02:19:34,629 --> 02:19:33,439
truth is you can't explain it unless you

3314
02:19:36,309 --> 02:19:34,639
believe

3315
02:19:37,910 --> 02:19:36,319
what these people are saying is that

3316
02:19:39,910 --> 02:19:37,920
they are going out of their bodies

3317
02:19:41,110 --> 02:19:39,920
they're seeing these things which really

3318
02:19:42,950 --> 02:19:41,120
to me

3319
02:19:45,429 --> 02:19:42,960
strongly supports the idea of life after

3320
02:19:48,070 --> 02:19:45,439
death well when uh

3321
02:19:49,270 --> 02:19:48,080
jim it's very simple

3322
02:19:50,150 --> 02:19:49,280
to me

3323
02:19:53,990 --> 02:19:50,160
when

3324
02:19:56,950 --> 02:19:54,000
we have all of the research uh from sri

3325
02:20:00,950 --> 02:19:56,960
in stanford remote viewing

3326
02:20:05,030 --> 02:20:00,960
and the stargate project and the heavy

3327
02:20:06,469 --> 02:20:05,040
investment that both the soviet union uh

3328
02:20:09,830 --> 02:20:06,479
now russia

3329
02:20:11,270 --> 02:20:09,840
and our very own cia

3330
02:20:13,510 --> 02:20:11,280
uh

3331
02:20:18,469 --> 02:20:13,520
their investment into

3332
02:20:20,790 --> 02:20:18,479
these remote viewing programs now

3333
02:20:23,270 --> 02:20:20,800
whatever you want to say about remote

3334
02:20:25,830 --> 02:20:23,280
viewing there has been a lot of

3335
02:20:28,389 --> 02:20:25,840
successes and a lot of documented things

3336
02:20:31,030 --> 02:20:28,399
that have gone down

3337
02:20:35,030 --> 02:20:31,040
do we you know ingo swan and everybody

3338
02:20:36,070 --> 02:20:35,040
russell targ and and and hal put off and

3339
02:20:39,750 --> 02:20:36,080
uh

3340
02:20:42,630 --> 02:20:39,760
um

3341
02:20:48,230 --> 02:20:42,640
is it the same as

3342
02:20:51,110 --> 02:20:48,240
what others have experienced about

3343
02:20:53,830 --> 02:20:51,120
leaving their bodies and and observing

3344
02:20:56,870 --> 02:20:53,840
i i would venture to say it's it's it's

3345
02:20:59,110 --> 02:20:56,880
the same thing the phenomena is is is

3346
02:21:02,309 --> 02:20:59,120
absolutely identical

3347
02:21:06,790 --> 02:21:02,319
one is we're conscious we're alive

3348
02:21:10,469 --> 02:21:06,800
we haven't died but we have uh tuned

3349
02:21:12,950 --> 02:21:10,479
the ability to go and do these things

3350
02:21:14,230 --> 02:21:12,960
and and not only on planet but off

3351
02:21:16,230 --> 02:21:14,240
planet

3352
02:21:18,550 --> 02:21:16,240
and and to venture out and do this this

3353
02:21:21,510 --> 02:21:18,560
is what uh so many cultures have talked

3354
02:21:23,830 --> 02:21:21,520
about for thousands of years right and

3355
02:21:25,990 --> 02:21:23,840
uh i i believe the phenomenon is real

3356
02:21:28,630 --> 02:21:26,000
that remote viewing astral projection

3357
02:21:32,309 --> 02:21:28,640
life after death the ability to see

3358
02:21:36,230 --> 02:21:32,319
things outside of our bodies is is just

3359
02:21:37,510 --> 02:21:36,240
a human trait some of us can exercise

3360
02:21:40,790 --> 02:21:37,520
practice it

3361
02:21:42,790 --> 02:21:40,800
and and fine-tune it but i think that uh

3362
02:21:44,710 --> 02:21:42,800
ingo swann and hal put off and dean

3363
02:21:46,630 --> 02:21:44,720
rayden and and and those out there that

3364
02:21:48,710 --> 02:21:46,640
have been researching this for years

3365
02:21:51,270 --> 02:21:48,720
will all tell you the same thing we can

3366
02:21:52,309 --> 02:21:51,280
all do it we just got to teach you how

3367
02:21:53,990 --> 02:21:52,319
to do it

3368
02:21:55,910 --> 02:21:54,000
and here's the point where i have a

3369
02:21:57,910 --> 02:21:55,920
problem with the skeptics because the

3370
02:21:59,590 --> 02:21:57,920
skeptics will say well you don't you

3371
02:22:01,830 --> 02:21:59,600
don't support science or you don't

3372
02:22:03,990 --> 02:22:01,840
believe in science but i believe that

3373
02:22:06,469 --> 02:22:04,000
science and all of this and

3374
02:22:09,750 --> 02:22:06,479
in fact a lot of this is science can

3375
02:22:11,830 --> 02:22:09,760
live side by side harmoniously

3376
02:22:13,590 --> 02:22:11,840
um you know for example what we're doing

3377
02:22:15,590 --> 02:22:13,600
right now i i mean the folks can't see

3378
02:22:18,150 --> 02:22:15,600
it but i can see you and you can see me

3379
02:22:20,950 --> 02:22:18,160
and we're doing this from our studios

3380
02:22:22,790 --> 02:22:20,960
used to be you know 25 years ago 30

3381
02:22:23,830 --> 02:22:22,800
years ago you had to be ted koppel to do

3382
02:22:26,389 --> 02:22:23,840
this

3383
02:22:27,830 --> 02:22:26,399
uh and and uh

3384
02:22:29,590 --> 02:22:27,840
literally

3385
02:22:32,550 --> 02:22:29,600
yeah half the half the people won't even

3386
02:22:33,670 --> 02:22:32,560
know who that is but um i'm old what can

3387
02:22:36,150 --> 02:22:33,680
i say

3388
02:22:39,349 --> 02:22:36,160
but uh the point is and this is

3389
02:22:42,150 --> 02:22:39,359
nightline anyway um

3390
02:22:44,550 --> 02:22:42,160
the point being that i love science

3391
02:22:47,030 --> 02:22:44,560
all this tech stuff i love is all based

3392
02:22:49,990 --> 02:22:47,040
on math and science science is great i

3393
02:22:51,349 --> 02:22:50,000
just saw william shatner go in space

3394
02:22:53,990 --> 02:22:51,359
last week

3395
02:22:57,270 --> 02:22:54,000
i mean science is great

3396
02:22:59,670 --> 02:22:57,280
but i don't think it should shut us off

3397
02:23:03,030 --> 02:22:59,680
to other realities or

3398
02:23:04,710 --> 02:23:03,040
stretch what science is and realize that

3399
02:23:06,389 --> 02:23:04,720
our science now

3400
02:23:09,590 --> 02:23:06,399
is going to be primitive when people

3401
02:23:11,670 --> 02:23:09,600
look back at it 50 100 150 a thousand

3402
02:23:13,349 --> 02:23:11,680
years from now so respect what we've

3403
02:23:15,110 --> 02:23:13,359
done before

3404
02:23:17,349 --> 02:23:15,120
celebrate what we've done to date but

3405
02:23:19,429 --> 02:23:17,359
realize it's not the be all in the end

3406
02:23:21,910 --> 02:23:19,439
all i think you can intellectually walk

3407
02:23:23,990 --> 02:23:21,920
and chew gum at the same time in that

3408
02:23:24,710 --> 02:23:24,000
fashion if you know what i'm saying i'd

3409
02:23:26,389 --> 02:23:24,720
uh

3410
02:23:27,590 --> 02:23:26,399
one of the things that i love about

3411
02:23:32,870 --> 02:23:27,600
skeptics

3412
02:23:35,910 --> 02:23:32,880
a lot is richard dawkins

3413
02:23:38,070 --> 02:23:35,920
and atheist you know hardcore and

3414
02:23:40,710 --> 02:23:38,080
everything is chemicals and chemistry

3415
02:23:41,670 --> 02:23:40,720
and there's nothing special uh beyond

3416
02:23:44,309 --> 02:23:41,680
that

3417
02:23:46,630 --> 02:23:44,319
but but there's a famous quote and i

3418
02:23:47,349 --> 02:23:46,640
watched it over and over again come out

3419
02:23:48,790 --> 02:23:47,359
of

3420
02:23:50,870 --> 02:23:48,800
his mouth

3421
02:23:52,630 --> 02:23:50,880
he said he goes but

3422
02:23:54,490 --> 02:23:52,640
[Laughter]

3423
02:23:57,590 --> 02:23:54,500
i'll never go in a haunted house

3424
02:24:00,550 --> 02:23:57,600
[Laughter]

3425
02:24:04,469 --> 02:24:00,560
he's the ultimate skeptic

3426
02:24:06,870 --> 02:24:04,479
yeah yeah and and and he's he's just

3427
02:24:08,950 --> 02:24:06,880
somebody that i just tease uh

3428
02:24:11,349 --> 02:24:08,960
endlessly but

3429
02:24:14,790 --> 02:24:11,359
he won't go in a haunted house

3430
02:24:18,630 --> 02:24:14,800
see and and and so is as hardcore as he

3431
02:24:21,110 --> 02:24:18,640
is when it when it comes to these things

3432
02:24:23,270 --> 02:24:21,120
yeah when he even he

3433
02:24:25,429 --> 02:24:23,280
has got a line that he's not going to

3434
02:24:28,309 --> 02:24:25,439
cross when it comes to the paranormal

3435
02:24:30,710 --> 02:24:28,319
he's not going in a haunted house and uh

3436
02:24:31,990 --> 02:24:30,720
but it's like wait wait we can't have it

3437
02:24:35,750 --> 02:24:32,000
both ways

3438
02:24:37,510 --> 02:24:35,760
uh mr dawkins okay we've got time uh for

3439
02:24:39,270 --> 02:24:37,520
for one more

3440
02:24:40,950 --> 02:24:39,280
okay well this was a fun one and it's

3441
02:24:42,469 --> 02:24:40,960
kind of a good time of year because

3442
02:24:44,790 --> 02:24:42,479
november 1st everybody's going to be

3443
02:24:46,550 --> 02:24:44,800
talking about the holidays and christmas

3444
02:24:49,270 --> 02:24:46,560
so this is a christmas ghost story a

3445
02:24:53,270 --> 02:24:49,280
little early for us this one was from a

3446
02:24:55,510 --> 02:24:53,280
few years ago and this gentleman would

3447
02:24:58,070 --> 02:24:55,520
rent a house

3448
02:24:59,030 --> 02:24:58,080
every christmas there are about 15

3449
02:25:01,270 --> 02:24:59,040
people

3450
02:25:03,590 --> 02:25:01,280
in the house and they would uh rent this

3451
02:25:05,830 --> 02:25:03,600
house and basically what it was was a

3452
02:25:08,550 --> 02:25:05,840
big christmas get-together they would

3453
02:25:10,230 --> 02:25:08,560
have a party and have a great time and

3454
02:25:11,670 --> 02:25:10,240
you know everybody would just have a

3455
02:25:12,950 --> 02:25:11,680
good time

3456
02:25:16,469 --> 02:25:12,960
so anyway

3457
02:25:18,710 --> 02:25:16,479
this one night uh he is uh adam it's

3458
02:25:21,910 --> 02:25:18,720
adam from connecticut and there's about

3459
02:25:25,349 --> 02:25:21,920
15 of his family members

3460
02:25:29,429 --> 02:25:25,359
there uh they're in bed he's up he's uh

3461
02:25:31,990 --> 02:25:29,439
downstairs and uh he's kind of you know

3462
02:25:34,870 --> 02:25:32,000
sitting in the living room looking up

3463
02:25:36,870 --> 02:25:34,880
and he sees this rather weird looking

3464
02:25:39,349 --> 02:25:36,880
figure at the top of the stairs and at

3465
02:25:41,590 --> 02:25:39,359
first he thinks well it's it it's

3466
02:25:43,190 --> 02:25:41,600
somebody from the uh

3467
02:25:45,190 --> 02:25:43,200
you know it's somebody from the house

3468
02:25:48,389 --> 02:25:45,200
it's one of my uh

3469
02:25:49,910 --> 02:25:48,399
family members or something like that

3470
02:25:51,349 --> 02:25:49,920
and uh

3471
02:25:53,110 --> 02:25:51,359
and he looks and it looks like the

3472
02:25:55,510 --> 02:25:53,120
person is wearing a

3473
02:25:56,710 --> 02:25:55,520
a tuxedo

3474
02:25:57,830 --> 02:25:56,720
and then

3475
02:25:59,510 --> 02:25:57,840
uh

3476
02:26:01,670 --> 02:25:59,520
amazingly

3477
02:26:02,950 --> 02:26:01,680
another figure

3478
02:26:04,870 --> 02:26:02,960
shows up

3479
02:26:06,389 --> 02:26:04,880
and they walk down the stairs together

3480
02:26:08,309 --> 02:26:06,399
and they're working walking and maybe

3481
02:26:10,630 --> 02:26:08,319
you've heard this before

3482
02:26:12,389 --> 02:26:10,640
jimmy um when they were walking down the

3483
02:26:13,670 --> 02:26:12,399
stairs they're walking like in this

3484
02:26:15,030 --> 02:26:13,680
herky

3485
02:26:16,870 --> 02:26:15,040
jerky

3486
02:26:21,190 --> 02:26:16,880
kind of

3487
02:26:22,469 --> 02:26:21,200
and

3488
02:26:24,070 --> 02:26:22,479
then

3489
02:26:25,990 --> 02:26:24,080
um

3490
02:26:27,910 --> 02:26:26,000
the one says to the other

3491
02:26:29,429 --> 02:26:27,920
oh my love

3492
02:26:31,500 --> 02:26:29,439
what a

3493
02:26:33,270 --> 02:26:31,510
mirror image we are

3494
02:26:35,670 --> 02:26:33,280
[Laughter]

3495
02:26:37,750 --> 02:26:35,680
oh my love what a mirror image

3496
02:26:40,630 --> 02:26:37,760
we are in a very

3497
02:26:44,150 --> 02:26:40,640
kind of um

3498
02:26:45,990 --> 02:26:44,160
kind of uh what's the deep male voice

3499
02:26:47,190 --> 02:26:46,000
and he says he just got chills thinking

3500
02:26:50,070 --> 02:26:47,200
about it and

3501
02:26:51,670 --> 02:26:50,080
he said at this point the figure was

3502
02:26:54,950 --> 02:26:51,680
almost bobbing back and forth kind of

3503
02:26:57,429 --> 02:26:54,960
looking around it didn't seem to direct

3504
02:26:59,429 --> 02:26:57,439
you know specifically it might have been

3505
02:27:01,429 --> 02:26:59,439
talking to the house

3506
02:27:03,110 --> 02:27:01,439
and again he said it was just so

3507
02:27:05,110 --> 02:27:03,120
haunting the way it said oh my love what

3508
02:27:07,510 --> 02:27:05,120
a mirror image we are

3509
02:27:09,670 --> 02:27:07,520
like someone was saying in a cave then

3510
02:27:11,510 --> 02:27:09,680
the apparitions walked into another room

3511
02:27:12,309 --> 02:27:11,520
that was off to the right and never came

3512
02:27:13,750 --> 02:27:12,319
back

3513
02:27:15,270 --> 02:27:13,760
he didn't know what to do so he just

3514
02:27:17,190 --> 02:27:15,280
kind of stayed there

3515
02:27:19,270 --> 02:27:17,200
he didn't get up to look for anybody he

3516
02:27:21,429 --> 02:27:19,280
was just so baffled

3517
02:27:23,429 --> 02:27:21,439
he was up for about an hour afterward

3518
02:27:24,630 --> 02:27:23,439
and nothing came back

3519
02:27:27,750 --> 02:27:24,640
out of the room and he says he's

3520
02:27:30,070 --> 02:27:27,760
absolutely convinced that it said oh my

3521
02:27:32,469 --> 02:27:30,080
love what a mirror image we are now he

3522
02:27:34,790 --> 02:27:32,479
says he doesn't know what that means now

3523
02:27:37,429 --> 02:27:34,800
the next morning the family was all

3524
02:27:39,030 --> 02:27:37,439
together and he asked was anybody going

3525
02:27:40,950 --> 02:27:39,040
to the bathroom or looking around the

3526
02:27:42,790 --> 02:27:40,960
house he thought maybe somebody had had

3527
02:27:44,550 --> 02:27:42,800
a little few too many and was just kind

3528
02:27:46,950 --> 02:27:44,560
of wandering they all said no

3529
02:27:48,550 --> 02:27:46,960
but the one uncle said i meant to ask

3530
02:27:49,990 --> 02:27:48,560
you guys too if anybody peeked their

3531
02:27:52,469 --> 02:27:50,000
head into my room

3532
02:27:54,950 --> 02:27:52,479
he said someone did that about three a.m

3533
02:27:56,550 --> 02:27:54,960
in the morning he said he saw his door

3534
02:27:58,150 --> 02:27:56,560
open and the glare of light from the

3535
02:28:00,070 --> 02:27:58,160
hallway then someone peeked their head

3536
02:28:02,070 --> 02:28:00,080
in the room and looked around

3537
02:28:03,830 --> 02:28:02,080
no one confessed to that either so adam

3538
02:28:05,590 --> 02:28:03,840
may have seen a ghost

3539
02:28:07,110 --> 02:28:05,600
in this place but i i don't know if

3540
02:28:09,990 --> 02:28:07,120
you've heard this but i have heard

3541
02:28:13,670 --> 02:28:10,000
people say apparitions sometimes jimmy

3542
02:28:15,429 --> 02:28:13,680
moving like this herky jerky motion

3543
02:28:18,550 --> 02:28:15,439
i um

3544
02:28:20,309 --> 02:28:18,560
i have never if if i saw that

3545
02:28:21,590 --> 02:28:20,319
i i don't know

3546
02:28:23,190 --> 02:28:21,600
right

3547
02:28:26,309 --> 02:28:23,200
i i don't know what kind of person i

3548
02:28:28,630 --> 02:28:26,319
would be afterwards i have uh i've only

3549
02:28:31,270 --> 02:28:28,640
seen one ghost

3550
02:28:34,469 --> 02:28:31,280
and uh i'm convinced that it was a ghost

3551
02:28:35,990 --> 02:28:34,479
uh because of the events and and how it

3552
02:28:40,710 --> 02:28:36,000
it went down

3553
02:28:43,030 --> 02:28:40,720
um i remember uh the next day uh

3554
02:28:45,750 --> 02:28:43,040
uh after this sighting

3555
02:28:47,750 --> 02:28:45,760
and i'm sitting around with the the

3556
02:28:49,349 --> 02:28:47,760
three other people that were with me the

3557
02:28:51,590 --> 02:28:49,359
night before when all of this went down

3558
02:28:53,429 --> 02:28:51,600
i was the only one that saw it

3559
02:28:55,110 --> 02:28:53,439
but uh

3560
02:28:57,110 --> 02:28:55,120
we were pretty

3561
02:29:01,750 --> 02:28:57,120
pretty traumatized

3562
02:29:05,270 --> 02:29:01,760
and in that uh lights run after that uh

3563
02:29:07,349 --> 02:29:05,280
at night uh doors were always checked to

3564
02:29:09,590 --> 02:29:07,359
make sure that they were locked

3565
02:29:10,710 --> 02:29:09,600
and it wasn't anything that we took

3566
02:29:13,910 --> 02:29:10,720
lightly

3567
02:29:16,630 --> 02:29:13,920
um and this was in hollywood this was

3568
02:29:18,309 --> 02:29:16,640
like 35 years ago and i was i was

3569
02:29:20,469 --> 02:29:18,319
younger and

3570
02:29:24,630 --> 02:29:20,479
if this same event would have happened

3571
02:29:26,469 --> 02:29:24,640
to me as an adult i i think that uh

3572
02:29:27,750 --> 02:29:26,479
i would have i would have taken it

3573
02:29:28,790 --> 02:29:27,760
differently

3574
02:29:32,630 --> 02:29:28,800
um

3575
02:29:37,270 --> 02:29:32,640
uh we were looking at it more as a

3576
02:29:39,590 --> 02:29:37,280
um an angry defensive posture and and i

3577
02:29:41,510 --> 02:29:39,600
wouldn't uh uh that that was our

3578
02:29:44,230 --> 02:29:41,520
reaction you know you're young

3579
02:29:46,389 --> 02:29:44,240
well yeah but uh as an adult no i think

3580
02:29:49,270 --> 02:29:46,399
i would have looked at it completely

3581
02:29:52,550 --> 02:29:49,280
differently i want to thank you uh for

3582
02:29:54,550 --> 02:29:52,560
for taking the time tonight uh to spend

3583
02:29:57,510 --> 02:29:54,560
uh halloween with us and share these

3584
02:29:59,590 --> 02:29:57,520
stories how uh uh

3585
02:30:02,950 --> 02:29:59,600
when do you put out the new campfire

3586
02:30:05,990 --> 02:30:02,960
when when do uh the new episodes uh for

3587
02:30:08,070 --> 02:30:06,000
the paranormal podcast happen each week

3588
02:30:11,590 --> 02:30:08,080
well the paranormal podcast comes out

3589
02:30:14,150 --> 02:30:11,600
every monday and we just released one

3590
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today on black eyed kids that weird

3591
02:30:17,830 --> 02:30:15,280
phenomena

3592
02:30:20,950 --> 02:30:17,840
and then jim harold's campfire comes out

3593
02:30:23,429 --> 02:30:20,960
every thursday and actually i misspoke

3594
02:30:25,830 --> 02:30:23,439
paranormal podcast tuesday jim harold's

3595
02:30:27,830 --> 02:30:25,840
campfire thursday and actually we have a

3596
02:30:30,389 --> 02:30:27,840
new podcast in our family and it's

3597
02:30:32,790 --> 02:30:30,399
hosted by my daughter cassandra harold

3598
02:30:33,990 --> 02:30:32,800
it's called unpleasant dreams and that's

3599
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more of a

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kind of a narrative style podcast with

3601
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music and sound effects and that's

3602
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really spooky we just did one on the

3603
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strange death of edgar allan poe and

3604
02:30:49,270 --> 02:30:47,439
that's called unpleasant dreams so

3605
02:30:51,110 --> 02:30:49,280
kind of making it a family affair here

3606
02:30:52,870 --> 02:30:51,120
but it's a lot of fun i hope everybody

3607
02:30:55,950 --> 02:30:52,880
checks them out everywhere you get your

3608
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podcasts and also they can go to jim

3609
02:31:01,030 --> 02:30:58,560
herald.com and jimmy thank you for your

3610
02:31:03,030 --> 02:31:01,040
kind invitation a pleasure to spend some

3611
02:31:05,510 --> 02:31:03,040
halloween time with you and the fader

3612
02:31:08,150 --> 02:31:05,520
knots yeah thank you so much jim and all

3613
02:31:10,070 --> 02:31:08,160
of jim's websites and links are over at

3614
02:31:12,150 --> 02:31:10,080
jimmychurchradio.com

3615
02:31:14,070 --> 02:31:12,160
and we've got them up throughout social

3616
02:31:15,670 --> 02:31:14,080
media so you can go and check it out but

3617
02:31:17,750 --> 02:31:15,680
jim harrell dot com

3618
02:31:19,070 --> 02:31:17,760
is kind of the melting pot and you can

3619
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hit there too as well but jim

3620
02:31:24,070 --> 02:31:21,439
haroldplus.com and everything else is

3621
02:31:27,349 --> 02:31:24,080
right there at jimmychurchradio.com jim

3622
02:31:29,110 --> 02:31:27,359
you are the absolute gold standard thank

3623
02:31:31,510 --> 02:31:29,120
you so much my friend

3624
02:31:34,469 --> 02:31:31,520
thank you i appreciate it thanks so much

3625
02:31:37,910 --> 02:31:34,479
have a great night jim harold i do want

3626
02:31:40,309 --> 02:31:37,920
to say happy halloween to everybody

3627
02:31:42,790 --> 02:31:40,319
and uh i want to remind everybody what's

3628
02:31:45,429 --> 02:31:42,800
going on tomorrow night too as well shaw

3629
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the loon witch is here for our eighth

3630
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annual

3631
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sean the loon witch halloween special

3632
02:31:53,670 --> 02:31:51,439
event uh very special thanks to jim

3633
02:31:57,190 --> 02:31:53,680
harold jim thank you so much enjoy your

3634
02:31:59,270 --> 02:31:57,200
halloween with the family and stay scary

3635
02:32:03,870 --> 02:31:59,280
thank you so much jim i'm meryl jimmy

3636
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church i'll be right back

3637
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3699
02:35:52,950 --> 02:35:50,720
welcome back fade to black i am your

3700
02:35:55,190 --> 02:35:52,960
host jimmy church

3701
02:35:56,469 --> 02:35:55,200
happy halloween everybody happy

3702
02:35:59,030 --> 02:35:56,479
halloween

3703
02:36:02,230 --> 02:35:59,040
and uh i want to thank jim harold for

3704
02:36:05,190 --> 02:36:02,240
coming in tonight and i know uh

3705
02:36:07,429 --> 02:36:05,200
what a busy schedule uh he has uh during

3706
02:36:09,990 --> 02:36:07,439
the halloween week and it was it was

3707
02:36:12,630 --> 02:36:10,000
just great to uh just sit down and and

3708
02:36:15,349 --> 02:36:12,640
tell some spooky stories

3709
02:36:17,670 --> 02:36:15,359
and uh and and again i want to remind

3710
02:36:19,670 --> 02:36:17,680
everybody what's going on this week and

3711
02:36:22,710 --> 02:36:19,680
that is tomorrow night shaw the loon

3712
02:36:25,270 --> 02:36:22,720
which is with us for our eighth annual

3713
02:36:28,150 --> 02:36:25,280
halloween special with shaw and she is

3714
02:36:31,429 --> 02:36:28,160
going to be giving the fader not their

3715
02:36:34,469 --> 02:36:31,439
readings three cards bam bam bam and uh

3716
02:36:36,150 --> 02:36:34,479
all night long it's gonna be a full fun

3717
02:36:37,190 --> 02:36:36,160
night tomorrow night with shaw the loon

3718
02:36:40,790 --> 02:36:37,200
witch

3719
02:36:44,630 --> 02:36:40,800
and uh coming to us from like salem you

3720
02:36:46,150 --> 02:36:44,640
know massachusetts and um and then uh

3721
02:36:48,630 --> 02:36:46,160
thursday night

3722
02:36:51,910 --> 02:36:48,640
fader night open lines

3723
02:36:53,990 --> 02:36:51,920
but uh race hobbs is going to be with us

3724
02:36:55,670 --> 02:36:54,000
and i'm hoping that i can talk race into

3725
02:36:57,349 --> 02:36:55,680
uh taking some phone calls and and

3726
02:36:58,070 --> 02:36:57,359
hanging out for a little bit too as well

3727
02:37:01,990 --> 02:36:58,080
but

3728
02:37:06,070 --> 02:37:02,000
we are going to

3729
02:37:07,750 --> 02:37:06,080
announce uh the on x network on thursday

3730
02:37:11,349 --> 02:37:07,760
night and then of course

3731
02:37:15,349 --> 02:37:11,359
this sunday halloween night october 31st

3732
02:37:16,469 --> 02:37:15,359
is the launch of the unaxed network and

3733
02:37:19,590 --> 02:37:16,479
i'll be

3734
02:37:21,750 --> 02:37:19,600
uh joining everybody over there okay and

3735
02:37:24,150 --> 02:37:21,760
that's going on uh sunday night again

3736
02:37:26,389 --> 02:37:24,160
thank you to jim harold uh for a great

3737
02:37:29,190 --> 02:37:26,399
night tonight on the show now

3738
02:37:31,190 --> 02:37:29,200
um i wanted to save this

3739
02:37:32,870 --> 02:37:31,200
uh i've opened up the phone lines i've

3740
02:37:34,710 --> 02:37:32,880
already got a bunch of calls on hold

3741
02:37:38,630 --> 02:37:34,720
everybody just stay right there

3742
02:37:39,429 --> 02:37:38,640
um but i wanted to share with everybody

3743
02:37:40,710 --> 02:37:39,439
uh

3744
02:37:43,030 --> 02:37:40,720
my

3745
02:37:45,429 --> 02:37:43,040
ghost story and i think

3746
02:37:48,950 --> 02:37:45,439
if i if i look back and just kind of

3747
02:37:52,309 --> 02:37:48,960
think about things this is like my

3748
02:37:54,790 --> 02:37:52,319
my one ghost story and i know i've uh uh

3749
02:37:56,870 --> 02:37:54,800
told the story before on the air but it

3750
02:37:58,830 --> 02:37:56,880
it's been a while but i wanna i just

3751
02:38:00,950 --> 02:37:58,840
wanna share it with with

3752
02:38:02,870 --> 02:38:00,960
everyone i'm going through these ghost

3753
02:38:04,150 --> 02:38:02,880
stories tonight with jim

3754
02:38:08,150 --> 02:38:04,160
and

3755
02:38:10,389 --> 02:38:08,160
to take away from

3756
02:38:13,429 --> 02:38:10,399
from uh jim and his conversation with

3757
02:38:16,550 --> 02:38:13,439
this but uh this is what happened

3758
02:38:17,510 --> 02:38:16,560
and this was probably

3759
02:38:20,950 --> 02:38:17,520
uh

3760
02:38:27,510 --> 02:38:23,110
and i know specifically

3761
02:38:30,550 --> 02:38:27,520
uh the year uh because back then

3762
02:38:33,590 --> 02:38:30,560
uh i lived in hollywood and i had a

3763
02:38:35,910 --> 02:38:33,600
magazine uh that i was a

3764
02:38:37,190 --> 02:38:35,920
a partner with uh my partner's name was

3765
02:38:39,910 --> 02:38:37,200
bart

3766
02:38:43,910 --> 02:38:39,920
and it was called concrete jungle

3767
02:38:46,230 --> 02:38:43,920
and it was a street rag rock and roll um

3768
02:38:49,990 --> 02:38:46,240
and things uh it was a lot of fun it was

3769
02:38:51,349 --> 02:38:50,000
a great great uh uh time of my life but

3770
02:38:55,349 --> 02:38:51,359
anyway

3771
02:38:57,830 --> 02:38:55,359
um there was a nightclub out here in the

3772
02:39:01,270 --> 02:38:57,840
valley called the country club chuck

3773
02:39:02,389 --> 02:39:01,280
landis country club it was a big venue

3774
02:39:03,270 --> 02:39:02,399
big

3775
02:39:05,830 --> 02:39:03,280
and

3776
02:39:07,429 --> 02:39:05,840
uh one year

3777
02:39:11,270 --> 02:39:07,439
we had uh

3778
02:39:14,230 --> 02:39:11,280
an awards uh party and i think we called

3779
02:39:15,510 --> 02:39:14,240
it the jammies the concrete jungle jammy

3780
02:39:17,590 --> 02:39:15,520
awards and

3781
02:39:18,950 --> 02:39:17,600
and it was an opportunity for us to get

3782
02:39:22,309 --> 02:39:18,960
our friends together

3783
02:39:24,790 --> 02:39:22,319
uh everybody get up on stage uh play uh

3784
02:39:27,190 --> 02:39:24,800
it was it was pretty cool uh i think

3785
02:39:31,910 --> 02:39:27,200
rough cut played that night

3786
02:39:34,389 --> 02:39:31,920
uh the wild played that night uh

3787
02:39:36,469 --> 02:39:34,399
uh i could go on and on with uh the

3788
02:39:37,670 --> 02:39:36,479
different bands but anyway

3789
02:39:41,830 --> 02:39:37,680
um

3790
02:39:43,830 --> 02:39:41,840
so we do this thing and it lasted uh the

3791
02:39:45,510 --> 02:39:43,840
the country club closed at two in the

3792
02:39:46,790 --> 02:39:45,520
morning

3793
02:39:50,389 --> 02:39:46,800
and

3794
02:39:52,950 --> 02:39:50,399
uh i made plans uh after

3795
02:39:55,110 --> 02:39:52,960
after this night to

3796
02:39:56,469 --> 02:39:55,120
go to my girlfriend's house her name was

3797
02:39:58,710 --> 02:39:56,479
christine

3798
02:40:00,630 --> 02:39:58,720
and uh

3799
02:40:01,429 --> 02:40:00,640
to

3800
02:40:03,349 --> 02:40:01,439
uh

3801
02:40:05,030 --> 02:40:03,359
you know get together

3802
02:40:07,990 --> 02:40:05,040
uh with some friends

3803
02:40:10,309 --> 02:40:08,000
and so i leave the country club and it's

3804
02:40:12,790 --> 02:40:10,319
about 2 15 2 30 in the morning we're

3805
02:40:14,950 --> 02:40:12,800
done we wrap up and you know and and

3806
02:40:18,150 --> 02:40:14,960
things and i jump in my car

3807
02:40:20,469 --> 02:40:18,160
and i drive from resida

3808
02:40:22,389 --> 02:40:20,479
in in the valley where the country club

3809
02:40:24,389 --> 02:40:22,399
was and i drive

3810
02:40:26,230 --> 02:40:24,399
to hollywood

3811
02:40:29,590 --> 02:40:26,240
and this

3812
02:40:31,990 --> 02:40:29,600
uh home christina's house

3813
02:40:33,349 --> 02:40:32,000
was a back house

3814
02:40:35,750 --> 02:40:33,359
to

3815
02:40:40,389 --> 02:40:35,760
a house it's a back house

3816
02:40:41,910 --> 02:40:40,399
and but nobody lived in the front house

3817
02:40:46,309 --> 02:40:41,920
there were reasons for that but i didn't

3818
02:40:49,830 --> 02:40:46,319
find out until the next day so anyway

3819
02:40:52,950 --> 02:40:49,840
i drive and i had a little uh a datsun

3820
02:40:55,750 --> 02:40:52,960
little dots and hatchback b210

3821
02:40:58,870 --> 02:40:55,760
and uh and i drive and and i finally

3822
02:41:02,790 --> 02:40:58,880
make it to hollywood and i was expecting

3823
02:41:05,990 --> 02:41:02,800
uh christina and her roommate and her

3824
02:41:08,550 --> 02:41:06,000
boyfriend to already be there

3825
02:41:12,389 --> 02:41:08,560
okay and i pull up to the house

3826
02:41:14,389 --> 02:41:12,399
and the house had a long driveway uh

3827
02:41:17,590 --> 02:41:14,399
to the back house in the back

3828
02:41:19,990 --> 02:41:17,600
and i pull up and there's no cars there

3829
02:41:22,309 --> 02:41:20,000
and uh and i was like okay all right how

3830
02:41:25,030 --> 02:41:22,319
long am i gonna have to wait and and

3831
02:41:29,030 --> 02:41:25,040
things um but uh

3832
02:41:32,150 --> 02:41:29,040
i i roll down the window and i sit and

3833
02:41:33,030 --> 02:41:32,160
i'm waiting for everybody to get to the

3834
02:41:36,309 --> 02:41:33,040
house

3835
02:41:37,750 --> 02:41:36,319
and i'm the only car in the driveway

3836
02:41:40,150 --> 02:41:37,760
and uh

3837
02:41:41,670 --> 02:41:40,160
and i happen to

3838
02:41:45,030 --> 02:41:41,680
glance

3839
02:41:45,910 --> 02:41:45,040
you know and the house is to my left and

3840
02:41:48,469 --> 02:41:45,920
um

3841
02:41:51,429 --> 02:41:48,479
now the house itself i want to say this

3842
02:41:54,469 --> 02:41:51,439
part um the house itself was probably

3843
02:41:56,630 --> 02:41:54,479
built uh when hollywood uh

3844
02:41:58,870 --> 02:41:56,640
uh was uh

3845
02:42:01,590 --> 02:41:58,880
starting so the house is probably from

3846
02:42:03,510 --> 02:42:01,600
the 1930s uh the front house and so was

3847
02:42:05,269 --> 02:42:03,520
the back house and it was really nice

3848
02:42:07,750 --> 02:42:05,279
and it had a porch

3849
02:42:09,750 --> 02:42:07,760
it had steps that came up and there was

3850
02:42:13,750 --> 02:42:09,760
a railing

3851
02:42:16,389 --> 02:42:13,760
white uh pillars and then the the the

3852
02:42:18,950 --> 02:42:16,399
front door there was a a bedroom window

3853
02:42:21,670 --> 02:42:18,960
uh to the right of the front door but to

3854
02:42:23,990 --> 02:42:21,680
the left of the front door was a giant

3855
02:42:26,389 --> 02:42:24,000
picture window you know probably four

3856
02:42:28,550 --> 02:42:26,399
foot by six foot but a big piece of

3857
02:42:29,750 --> 02:42:28,560
glass it was really nice

3858
02:42:32,790 --> 02:42:29,760
and uh

3859
02:42:35,750 --> 02:42:32,800
uh by the way this house

3860
02:42:39,349 --> 02:42:35,760
is basically across the street from the

3861
02:42:40,870 --> 02:42:39,359
church of scientology on

3862
02:42:43,590 --> 02:42:40,880
on fountain

3863
02:42:45,750 --> 02:42:43,600
and uh or franklin

3864
02:42:48,550 --> 02:42:45,760
fountain franklin

3865
02:42:50,150 --> 02:42:48,560
in bronson on the corner there

3866
02:42:53,190 --> 02:42:50,160
uh if you know

3867
02:42:55,830 --> 02:42:53,200
the area okay so

3868
02:42:57,990 --> 02:42:55,840
uh i'm sitting there it's 2 30 in the

3869
02:43:00,790 --> 02:42:58,000
morning and

3870
02:43:02,469 --> 02:43:00,800
and i just glance out the

3871
02:43:04,630 --> 02:43:02,479
the window

3872
02:43:05,830 --> 02:43:04,640
of of my car

3873
02:43:10,150 --> 02:43:05,840
and i

3874
02:43:14,630 --> 02:43:10,160
nicely lit up

3875
02:43:17,269 --> 02:43:16,070
somebody

3876
02:43:19,990 --> 02:43:17,279
pull

3877
02:43:24,389 --> 02:43:20,000
the curtains back

3878
02:43:29,510 --> 02:43:26,550
and and i see this

3879
02:43:31,269 --> 02:43:29,520
and and i get angry and the reason why i

3880
02:43:34,389 --> 02:43:31,279
get angry

3881
02:43:36,630 --> 02:43:34,399
is because somebody is letting me

3882
02:43:39,590 --> 02:43:36,640
sit in my car

3883
02:43:41,349 --> 02:43:39,600
instead of inviting me into the house

3884
02:43:44,070 --> 02:43:41,359
while we're waiting for everybody to

3885
02:43:50,230 --> 02:43:46,790
and so i'm i'm pissed off

3886
02:43:54,070 --> 02:43:50,240
and i get out of my car and i walk up

3887
02:43:56,150 --> 02:43:54,080
and i'm expecting the front door to open

3888
02:43:58,230 --> 02:43:56,160
hey man you know come on in you know

3889
02:44:00,630 --> 02:43:58,240
waiting for for everybody to show up

3890
02:44:02,870 --> 02:44:00,640
that's what i was expecting

3891
02:44:04,950 --> 02:44:02,880
and and i go up and i stand on the the

3892
02:44:07,349 --> 02:44:04,960
front porch and nothing happens

3893
02:44:10,150 --> 02:44:07,359
front door doesn't open whoever looked

3894
02:44:11,990 --> 02:44:10,160
out sees me i'm right there my car is

3895
02:44:14,550 --> 02:44:12,000
right there

3896
02:44:16,389 --> 02:44:14,560
and nothing happens so i knock on the

3897
02:44:20,309 --> 02:44:16,399
door

3898
02:44:23,510 --> 02:44:20,319
and i'm waiting nobody answers

3899
02:44:25,670 --> 02:44:23,520
and i knock again and and it's an angry

3900
02:44:27,590 --> 02:44:25,680
knock this time

3901
02:44:29,349 --> 02:44:27,600
right

3902
02:44:31,269 --> 02:44:29,359
nobody answers

3903
02:44:32,630 --> 02:44:31,279
and i'm standing out on the front porch

3904
02:44:35,590 --> 02:44:32,640
like a doofus

3905
02:44:37,750 --> 02:44:35,600
and i don't enjoy

3906
02:44:40,309 --> 02:44:37,760
what is happening and and i'm i'm

3907
02:44:42,870 --> 02:44:40,319
getting mad i'm getting angry

3908
02:44:45,349 --> 02:44:42,880
and somebody's in the house

3909
02:44:47,990 --> 02:44:45,359
and they're not letting me in

3910
02:44:49,910 --> 02:44:48,000
i go back to the car and i sit

3911
02:44:52,070 --> 02:44:49,920
and i'm just looking back at the house

3912
02:44:54,870 --> 02:44:52,080
nobody looks back out the window

3913
02:44:57,910 --> 02:44:54,880
and uh and then

3914
02:44:59,990 --> 02:44:57,920
uh christina and chris and her roommate

3915
02:45:01,910 --> 02:45:00,000
uh chris is her roommate's boyfriend i

3916
02:45:04,469 --> 02:45:01,920
don't remember her roommate's name

3917
02:45:06,309 --> 02:45:04,479
um i remember chris though yeah he's a

3918
02:45:08,630 --> 02:45:06,319
cool dude actor

3919
02:45:10,389 --> 02:45:08,640
and he's a big buff dude

3920
02:45:12,150 --> 02:45:10,399
and uh

3921
02:45:14,630 --> 02:45:12,160
and they get out of the car and i get

3922
02:45:16,710 --> 02:45:14,640
out and i'm like what are you guys what

3923
02:45:18,630 --> 02:45:16,720
no uh hold on

3924
02:45:20,389 --> 02:45:18,640
uh

3925
02:45:21,670 --> 02:45:20,399
telling the story a little backwards but

3926
02:45:25,590 --> 02:45:21,680
it doesn't matter

3927
02:45:27,429 --> 02:45:25,600
um christina pulls up first

3928
02:45:29,110 --> 02:45:27,439
and i said hey

3929
02:45:31,349 --> 02:45:29,120
your roommate is in the house and won't

3930
02:45:32,630 --> 02:45:31,359
let me in and she goes no she's not

3931
02:45:34,630 --> 02:45:32,640
she's with chris they're going to be

3932
02:45:36,309 --> 02:45:34,640
here in a minute i went no

3933
02:45:37,429 --> 02:45:36,319
she's in the house christina kind of

3934
02:45:40,070 --> 02:45:37,439
freaks

3935
02:45:41,269 --> 02:45:40,080
then they pull up behind

3936
02:45:43,429 --> 02:45:41,279
christina

3937
02:45:45,110 --> 02:45:43,439
and uh

3938
02:45:47,349 --> 02:45:45,120
and he gets out of the car she gets out

3939
02:45:48,790 --> 02:45:47,359
of the car and said wait a minute

3940
02:45:50,790 --> 02:45:48,800
i thought you were

3941
02:45:51,830 --> 02:45:50,800
in the house and not letting me and she

3942
02:45:53,269 --> 02:45:51,840
goes no

3943
02:45:55,830 --> 02:45:53,279
obviously

3944
02:45:58,950 --> 02:45:55,840
and now i've got everybody freaked out

3945
02:46:00,389 --> 02:45:58,960
and i'm freaked out there's somebody in

3946
02:46:02,230 --> 02:46:00,399
the house

3947
02:46:05,349 --> 02:46:02,240
right and now chris is ready man he's

3948
02:46:08,550 --> 02:46:05,359
ready to kick butt and and so am i

3949
02:46:11,190 --> 02:46:08,560
and we go up and we unlock the door

3950
02:46:13,190 --> 02:46:11,200
and and we go in we're kind of cautious

3951
02:46:14,870 --> 02:46:13,200
there's somebody in the house

3952
02:46:16,630 --> 02:46:14,880
and we're turning on the lights we're

3953
02:46:18,389 --> 02:46:16,640
looking around and there's

3954
02:46:20,630 --> 02:46:18,399
it's a it's a small back house i think

3955
02:46:23,190 --> 02:46:20,640
there's two bedrooms front living room a

3956
02:46:24,950 --> 02:46:23,200
kitchen and that's it bathroom

3957
02:46:26,790 --> 02:46:24,960
but that's it you can see everything

3958
02:46:28,230 --> 02:46:26,800
when you walk in

3959
02:46:30,150 --> 02:46:28,240
and

3960
02:46:32,550 --> 02:46:30,160
there's nobody there

3961
02:46:34,870 --> 02:46:32,560
and the girls are out on the front porch

3962
02:46:36,309 --> 02:46:34,880
as chris and i go through the house we

3963
02:46:39,269 --> 02:46:36,319
turn on all the lights we turn

3964
02:46:41,110 --> 02:46:39,279
everything on there's nobody there

3965
02:46:42,230 --> 02:46:41,120
and that

3966
02:46:43,990 --> 02:46:42,240
is what

3967
02:46:45,429 --> 02:46:44,000
started to freak us out

3968
02:46:47,110 --> 02:46:45,439
we're checking all the windows the

3969
02:46:50,150 --> 02:46:47,120
windows are locked

3970
02:46:52,469 --> 02:46:50,160
um we go through every nook and cranny

3971
02:46:54,710 --> 02:46:52,479
before the girls come in the house and

3972
02:46:56,309 --> 02:46:54,720
there is nobody there nobody under the

3973
02:46:58,230 --> 02:46:56,319
beds nobody is

3974
02:47:01,110 --> 02:46:58,240
there's nobody in the house

3975
02:47:02,309 --> 02:47:01,120
and everybody's freaked i'm freaked

3976
02:47:07,110 --> 02:47:02,319
and

3977
02:47:09,910 --> 02:47:07,120
um i never really questioned my own mind

3978
02:47:11,429 --> 02:47:09,920
about this did i see it no i i saw what

3979
02:47:12,630 --> 02:47:11,439
i saw

3980
02:47:17,269 --> 02:47:12,640
and

3981
02:47:19,269 --> 02:47:17,279
so uh

3982
02:47:21,590 --> 02:47:19,279
we bring everybody in

3983
02:47:23,670 --> 02:47:21,600
uh lights are turned on lights were left

3984
02:47:25,030 --> 02:47:23,680
on all night and and we go to bed the

3985
02:47:27,910 --> 02:47:25,040
next day

3986
02:47:29,190 --> 02:47:27,920
um the landlord shows up and he was an

3987
02:47:31,910 --> 02:47:29,200
asian guy

3988
02:47:34,870 --> 02:47:31,920
that's what i remember uh oh

3989
02:47:37,990 --> 02:47:34,880
i was i was in my 20s so i was probably

3990
02:47:39,990 --> 02:47:38,000
25 at the time and i'm guessing this guy

3991
02:47:41,590 --> 02:47:40,000
is in his 60s

3992
02:47:44,230 --> 02:47:41,600
and he shows up to

3993
02:47:46,469 --> 02:47:44,240
to do whatever he's the landlord

3994
02:47:50,950 --> 02:47:46,479
and uh

3995
02:47:53,429 --> 02:47:50,960
and when we tell the story now i'm ready

3996
02:47:56,790 --> 02:47:53,439
i kind of remember

3997
02:48:00,070 --> 02:47:56,800
uh the sequence of events was uh i went

3998
02:48:02,870 --> 02:48:00,080
up and i looked in the back window

3999
02:48:05,750 --> 02:48:02,880
of the house the front house

4000
02:48:07,670 --> 02:48:05,760
and and i and i looked in and i looked

4001
02:48:09,830 --> 02:48:07,680
through and the house is empty and i

4002
02:48:13,190 --> 02:48:09,840
remember these wood floors and i could

4003
02:48:15,590 --> 02:48:13,200
see through the back door of the house

4004
02:48:16,870 --> 02:48:15,600
and there was a black

4005
02:48:19,830 --> 02:48:16,880
spot

4006
02:48:21,429 --> 02:48:19,840
on the living room floor

4007
02:48:23,429 --> 02:48:21,439
and and i couldn't tell if there's a

4008
02:48:25,190 --> 02:48:23,439
shadow or whatever but i saw it anyway

4009
02:48:26,950 --> 02:48:25,200
so the land that was and then the

4010
02:48:29,750 --> 02:48:26,960
landlord shows up and we're all in the

4011
02:48:32,309 --> 02:48:29,760
front driveway talking about this this

4012
02:48:34,550 --> 02:48:32,319
event from the night before

4013
02:48:35,990 --> 02:48:34,560
and the landlord shows up and we tell

4014
02:48:38,550 --> 02:48:36,000
them

4015
02:48:40,950 --> 02:48:38,560
you know and i think i saw a ghost uh

4016
02:48:42,389 --> 02:48:40,960
there was somebody in the house but we

4017
02:48:44,790 --> 02:48:42,399
went in everything was locked there was

4018
02:48:47,990 --> 02:48:44,800
nobody in there and

4019
02:48:52,230 --> 02:48:48,000
then the landlord tells us

4020
02:48:55,429 --> 02:48:52,240
that he hasn't rented the house in front

4021
02:48:57,349 --> 02:48:55,439
because his son

4022
02:48:59,910 --> 02:48:57,359
had committed suicide

4023
02:49:02,710 --> 02:48:59,920
um the year before

4024
02:49:04,150 --> 02:49:02,720
lighting himself on fire in the living

4025
02:49:07,990 --> 02:49:04,160
room

4026
02:49:10,870 --> 02:49:08,000
and all of us just kind of stepped back

4027
02:49:12,630 --> 02:49:10,880
and thought to ourselves wait a minute

4028
02:49:13,510 --> 02:49:12,640
you know and here

4029
02:49:15,030 --> 02:49:13,520
uh

4030
02:49:17,910 --> 02:49:15,040
christina

4031
02:49:19,590 --> 02:49:17,920
is is living in this back house

4032
02:49:22,870 --> 02:49:19,600
uh i didn't live with her she lived

4033
02:49:24,389 --> 02:49:22,880
there alone uh with her roommate

4034
02:49:26,950 --> 02:49:24,399
and uh

4035
02:49:28,389 --> 02:49:26,960
and that's the story

4036
02:49:34,070 --> 02:49:28,399
that's it

4037
02:49:35,670 --> 02:49:34,080
and again this is 35 years ago this is

4038
02:49:36,469 --> 02:49:35,680
1988.

4039
02:49:39,349 --> 02:49:36,479
um

4040
02:49:41,510 --> 02:49:39,359
i don't think i went back

4041
02:49:44,230 --> 02:49:41,520
the the whole

4042
02:49:45,349 --> 02:49:44,240
story kind of creeped me out

4043
02:49:47,910 --> 02:49:45,359
um

4044
02:49:49,030 --> 02:49:47,920
years later no it was like two years

4045
02:49:50,389 --> 02:49:49,040
later

4046
02:49:52,150 --> 02:49:50,399
um uh

4047
02:49:55,190 --> 02:49:52,160
in front

4048
02:49:56,070 --> 02:49:55,200
of okay uh

4049
02:49:59,429 --> 02:49:56,080
uh

4050
02:50:00,950 --> 02:49:59,439
i went to this apartment

4051
02:50:04,469 --> 02:50:00,960
on bronson

4052
02:50:06,550 --> 02:50:04,479
and uh up on the top floor and i and i

4053
02:50:08,070 --> 02:50:06,560
was there and

4054
02:50:10,150 --> 02:50:08,080
uh

4055
02:50:12,309 --> 02:50:10,160
and i remember

4056
02:50:14,710 --> 02:50:12,319
looking out the window

4057
02:50:16,150 --> 02:50:14,720
at uh the church of scientology and they

4058
02:50:17,910 --> 02:50:16,160
were having a party they were having

4059
02:50:19,670 --> 02:50:17,920
said there was limousines and there was

4060
02:50:22,389 --> 02:50:19,680
a orchestra

4061
02:50:24,469 --> 02:50:22,399
out on the lawn and i was watching this

4062
02:50:26,309 --> 02:50:24,479
go down and people going through the

4063
02:50:28,309 --> 02:50:26,319
gates and and getting out of the

4064
02:50:30,550 --> 02:50:28,319
limousines and pictures and things and

4065
02:50:32,550 --> 02:50:30,560
i'm watching that go on and i and i

4066
02:50:34,389 --> 02:50:32,560
looked

4067
02:50:36,389 --> 02:50:34,399
and i went that's

4068
02:50:39,590 --> 02:50:36,399
that's the house with the ghost

4069
02:50:42,230 --> 02:50:39,600
i ended up looking down on top of it

4070
02:50:43,990 --> 02:50:42,240
uh from this apartment um

4071
02:50:46,309 --> 02:50:44,000
and uh

4072
02:50:47,910 --> 02:50:46,319
uh there's a famous liquor store there

4073
02:50:50,070 --> 02:50:47,920
and it was behind

4074
02:50:51,670 --> 02:50:50,080
behind that and the whole thing came

4075
02:50:53,269 --> 02:50:51,680
flooding back

4076
02:50:54,950 --> 02:50:53,279
and i was looking at the roof of the

4077
02:50:56,230 --> 02:50:54,960
back house and i could see the other

4078
02:50:58,950 --> 02:50:56,240
house there

4079
02:51:02,710 --> 02:50:58,960
but i never i never went back

4080
02:51:04,710 --> 02:51:02,720
it was a it was a freaky freaky thing

4081
02:51:07,429 --> 02:51:04,720
and i'm just gonna leave it right there

4082
02:51:11,030 --> 02:51:07,439
there it is it's halloween i just shared

4083
02:51:13,590 --> 02:51:11,040
my ghost story and and i still uh to

4084
02:51:15,830 --> 02:51:13,600
this day i i think back

4085
02:51:18,630 --> 02:51:15,840
at all of that and wonder

4086
02:51:21,510 --> 02:51:18,640
what it was that i saw who was it was it

4087
02:51:22,550 --> 02:51:21,520
the landlord's son i don't know

4088
02:51:25,269 --> 02:51:22,560
um

4089
02:51:28,790 --> 02:51:25,279
oh oh oh oh oh there was a there was one

4090
02:51:31,349 --> 02:51:28,800
other one other part to the story

4091
02:51:34,389 --> 02:51:31,359
when we were in the house uh this is

4092
02:51:35,590 --> 02:51:34,399
later on everybody is back in we cleared

4093
02:51:37,590 --> 02:51:35,600
the house

4094
02:51:41,429 --> 02:51:37,600
and i had this little moment to myself

4095
02:51:43,910 --> 02:51:41,439
and i went up to the window

4096
02:51:48,790 --> 02:51:43,920
and i just looked at it and i pulled the

4097
02:51:49,750 --> 02:51:48,800
curtains back and i looked at my car

4098
02:51:53,110 --> 02:51:49,760
and

4099
02:51:54,710 --> 02:51:53,120
physically knowing what it took to move

4100
02:51:57,750 --> 02:51:54,720
the curtains back

4101
02:52:01,830 --> 02:51:57,760
and and pull this back and and

4102
02:52:03,750 --> 02:52:01,840
trying to debunk no whatever it was

4103
02:52:04,710 --> 02:52:03,760
pulled the curtains back and looked at

4104
02:52:06,950 --> 02:52:04,720
me

4105
02:52:09,269 --> 02:52:06,960
it wasn't uh it wasn't the wind it

4106
02:52:10,630 --> 02:52:09,279
wasn't some anomaly it wasn't any of

4107
02:52:12,630 --> 02:52:10,640
that no

4108
02:52:14,710 --> 02:52:12,640
i literally pulled it back and looked

4109
02:52:15,990 --> 02:52:14,720
right at my car

4110
02:52:18,309 --> 02:52:16,000
and that's

4111
02:52:20,790 --> 02:52:18,319
that's when the chill went down

4112
02:52:24,469 --> 02:52:20,800
that was that was the closer for me

4113
02:52:25,590 --> 02:52:24,479
so there you go there's my ghost story

4114
02:52:28,950 --> 02:52:25,600
yeah man

4115
02:52:32,550 --> 02:52:28,960
brian that's a funny

4116
02:52:34,469 --> 02:52:32,560
that was probably going down in 1988 uh

4117
02:52:36,710 --> 02:52:34,479
that gif right there

4118
02:52:38,230 --> 02:52:36,720
okay um

4119
02:52:40,309 --> 02:52:38,240
uh

4120
02:52:42,389 --> 02:52:40,319
how about telling the story about you

4121
02:52:45,670 --> 02:52:42,399
finding the perfect house you know i've

4122
02:52:48,389 --> 02:52:45,680
told that story so many times and uh i

4123
02:52:51,750 --> 02:52:48,399
was recently back in indianapolis and

4124
02:52:53,429 --> 02:52:51,760
and told that story uh with the friends

4125
02:52:55,590 --> 02:52:53,439
that were there

4126
02:52:59,670 --> 02:52:55,600
yeah yeah it was a couple of months ago

4127
02:53:05,590 --> 02:53:01,269
hi you're live on fade to black who's

4128
02:53:08,469 --> 02:53:07,429
you're live hey jimmy

4129
02:53:11,269 --> 02:53:08,479
yes

4130
02:53:16,070 --> 02:53:11,279
jimmy it's the bill again

4131
02:53:19,190 --> 02:53:16,080
it's the bill again oh hey how you doing

4132
02:53:21,110 --> 02:53:19,200
i am doing all right man great story by

4133
02:53:23,429 --> 02:53:21,120
the way

4134
02:53:26,550 --> 02:53:23,439
the the the true stories the real

4135
02:53:28,230 --> 02:53:26,560
stories are the best ones

4136
02:53:30,710 --> 02:53:28,240
absolutely

4137
02:53:34,710 --> 02:53:30,720
hey uh i wanted to tell you

4138
02:53:36,550 --> 02:53:34,720
i listened to the the campfire and the

4139
02:53:39,190 --> 02:53:36,560
jim harold's

4140
02:53:40,389 --> 02:53:39,200
you know stories and stuff all the time

4141
02:53:43,030 --> 02:53:40,399
so

4142
02:53:47,269 --> 02:53:43,040
big fan

4143
02:53:49,590 --> 02:53:47,279
love to hear you guys talking about it

4144
02:53:52,469 --> 02:53:49,600
wanted to tell your stories about stuff

4145
02:53:54,469 --> 02:53:52,479
that you know stuff has happened to me

4146
02:53:56,950 --> 02:53:54,479
over and over and over and over and over

4147
02:53:59,750 --> 02:53:56,960
all my life

4148
02:54:01,590 --> 02:53:59,760
crazy things flying off you know shelves

4149
02:54:03,910 --> 02:54:01,600
and things it just

4150
02:54:08,550 --> 02:54:03,920
freaked me out

4151
02:54:13,110 --> 02:54:10,710
i wish i did man

4152
02:54:15,910 --> 02:54:13,120
well if steph is flying off the shelves

4153
02:54:18,790 --> 02:54:15,920
what was going on

4154
02:54:21,110 --> 02:54:18,800
well i just i just sat down i had the

4155
02:54:23,429 --> 02:54:21,120
mail

4156
02:54:25,990 --> 02:54:23,439
stuff come flying off the shelf broke

4157
02:54:30,950 --> 02:54:26,000
right in front of my face

4158
02:54:36,469 --> 02:54:35,030
but but what was it bill

4159
02:54:39,269 --> 02:54:36,479
well what it was

4160
02:54:41,349 --> 02:54:39,279
was uh you remember back in the 70s they

4161
02:54:42,389 --> 02:54:41,359
had uh

4162
02:54:45,429 --> 02:54:42,399
the little

4163
02:54:46,790 --> 02:54:45,439
the things that you would make out of

4164
02:54:48,469 --> 02:54:46,800
wood

4165
02:54:51,910 --> 02:54:48,479
with your name

4166
02:54:52,790 --> 02:54:51,920
right i do yeah that's right

4167
02:54:54,469 --> 02:54:52,800
yeah

4168
02:54:57,269 --> 02:54:54,479
and i was sitting down and this thing

4169
02:54:59,670 --> 02:54:57,279
just come flying off the shelf

4170
02:55:03,429 --> 02:54:59,680
landed in front of my feet and broke

4171
02:55:08,790 --> 02:55:04,790
what the hell was that

4172
02:55:11,590 --> 02:55:08,800
[Laughter]

4173
02:55:13,990 --> 02:55:11,600
um i have uh

4174
02:55:17,910 --> 02:55:14,000
well aside from the shoes that are

4175
02:55:19,269 --> 02:55:17,920
falling down on my uh closet as i speak

4176
02:55:21,590 --> 02:55:19,279
right now

4177
02:55:22,950 --> 02:55:21,600
um and i'm almost dreading i'm almost

4178
02:55:24,230 --> 02:55:22,960
dreading uh

4179
02:55:26,469 --> 02:55:24,240
uh

4180
02:55:29,110 --> 02:55:26,479
you know going upstairs and walking in

4181
02:55:31,429 --> 02:55:29,120
to see what what else is new

4182
02:55:32,790 --> 02:55:31,439
but i haven't and i haven't seen the

4183
02:55:35,990 --> 02:55:32,800
shoes fall

4184
02:55:38,469 --> 02:55:36,000
but i have i haven't seen them i i don't

4185
02:55:39,830 --> 02:55:38,479
think i've ever had anything fly around

4186
02:55:42,389 --> 02:55:39,840
the room

4187
02:55:46,309 --> 02:55:42,399
on me not yet

4188
02:55:47,190 --> 02:55:46,319
um i did have i i did have one

4189
02:55:48,550 --> 02:55:47,200
uh

4190
02:55:50,870 --> 02:55:48,560
one thing that happened i've told the

4191
02:55:52,230 --> 02:55:50,880
story before on the show

4192
02:55:54,870 --> 02:55:52,240
but uh

4193
02:55:58,870 --> 02:55:54,880
this was about uh

4194
02:56:02,870 --> 02:55:58,880
probably five or six years ago and uh

4195
02:56:03,910 --> 02:56:02,880
rita and i were were in our room

4196
02:56:05,910 --> 02:56:03,920
and

4197
02:56:07,990 --> 02:56:05,920
uh at the time

4198
02:56:10,790 --> 02:56:08,000
uh the furniture was arranged uh

4199
02:56:12,630 --> 02:56:10,800
different ways uh over the years but at

4200
02:56:16,710 --> 02:56:12,640
this particular time

4201
02:56:21,190 --> 02:56:16,720
our bed uh was facing

4202
02:56:23,030 --> 02:56:21,200
uh the room long ways and um

4203
02:56:24,790 --> 02:56:23,040
and the bathroom door

4204
02:56:27,190 --> 02:56:24,800
was at the foot of our bed a little bit

4205
02:56:31,269 --> 02:56:27,200
off to the left but but there

4206
02:56:32,790 --> 02:56:31,279
and so inside of the bathroom once you

4207
02:56:36,150 --> 02:56:32,800
entered the bathroom

4208
02:56:38,710 --> 02:56:36,160
to the left right there was

4209
02:56:40,389 --> 02:56:38,720
the commode the john room and that had

4210
02:56:43,110 --> 02:56:40,399
its own door on it

4211
02:56:46,630 --> 02:56:43,120
but the toilet was in there by itself

4212
02:56:50,870 --> 02:56:46,640
um but that particular toilet

4213
02:56:52,830 --> 02:56:50,880
had a a toilet lid a seat

4214
02:56:54,870 --> 02:56:52,840
that

4215
02:56:57,190 --> 02:56:54,880
was uh

4216
02:57:00,950 --> 02:56:57,200
it didn't move on its own you had to

4217
02:57:02,630 --> 02:57:00,960
physically like run and and move it up

4218
02:57:06,070 --> 02:57:02,640
and um

4219
02:57:09,030 --> 02:57:06,080
push it back down it wouldn't uh it was

4220
02:57:10,630 --> 02:57:09,040
it was tight and squeaky

4221
02:57:13,750 --> 02:57:10,640
and and

4222
02:57:15,830 --> 02:57:13,760
it was a very manual operation that uh

4223
02:57:16,790 --> 02:57:15,840
went on with that toilet seat and toilet

4224
02:57:19,510 --> 02:57:16,800
lid

4225
02:57:23,269 --> 02:57:19,520
and um so anyway

4226
02:57:24,630 --> 02:57:23,279
one night uh were were sitting there

4227
02:57:26,389 --> 02:57:24,640
and that

4228
02:57:28,950 --> 02:57:26,399
toilet seat

4229
02:57:30,389 --> 02:57:28,960
fell down on its own

4230
02:57:32,469 --> 02:57:30,399
bam

4231
02:57:36,469 --> 02:57:32,479
and

4232
02:57:38,070 --> 02:57:36,479
i knew i mean this is the thing

4233
02:57:39,990 --> 02:57:38,080
i knew what i would have to go through

4234
02:57:45,030 --> 02:57:40,000
to move that toilet lid

4235
02:57:46,550 --> 02:57:45,040
i mean just just it's just it was effort

4236
02:57:48,950 --> 02:57:46,560
and to have that

4237
02:57:51,190 --> 02:57:48,960
fall down on its own

4238
02:57:54,389 --> 02:57:51,200
i didn't want to get up and go look i

4239
02:57:56,550 --> 02:57:54,399
didn't want to see it down

4240
02:57:59,110 --> 02:57:56,560
i didn't want to see it up i didn't want

4241
02:57:59,990 --> 02:57:59,120
to see i did not

4242
02:58:01,910 --> 02:58:00,000
uh

4243
02:58:04,630 --> 02:58:01,920
i didn't want to know i didn't want to

4244
02:58:06,710 --> 02:58:04,640
know i let it go

4245
02:58:09,110 --> 02:58:06,720
and there was no way that i was going to

4246
02:58:11,590 --> 02:58:09,120
get up and get out of bed and go in

4247
02:58:14,950 --> 02:58:11,600
there and freak myself out and and to

4248
02:58:16,550 --> 02:58:14,960
see that the toilet seat up or down in

4249
02:58:18,790 --> 02:58:16,560
either position

4250
02:58:21,590 --> 02:58:18,800
whatever it was i didn't want to see it

4251
02:58:23,830 --> 02:58:21,600
because i knew what was involved with

4252
02:58:25,670 --> 02:58:23,840
that thing coming up and down i i wanted

4253
02:58:28,309 --> 02:58:25,680
nothing to do with it bill nothing at

4254
02:58:31,910 --> 02:58:28,319
all listen i'll tell you what man

4255
02:58:33,830 --> 02:58:31,920
i'll tell you what i i desperately want

4256
02:58:35,190 --> 02:58:33,840
to see something

4257
02:58:37,269 --> 02:58:35,200
from

4258
02:58:40,710 --> 02:58:37,279
my wife died

4259
02:58:42,630 --> 02:58:40,720
on august 7

4260
02:58:46,550 --> 02:58:42,640
2021

4261
02:58:48,550 --> 02:58:46,560
and i've seen nothing

4262
02:58:49,910 --> 02:58:48,560
well um

4263
02:58:51,349 --> 02:58:49,920
uh

4264
02:58:56,630 --> 02:58:51,359
my

4265
02:58:57,670 --> 02:58:56,640
four years ago

4266
02:59:01,110 --> 02:58:57,680
uh

4267
02:59:03,510 --> 02:59:01,120
right before show time one night and

4268
02:59:06,389 --> 02:59:03,520
and i've you know i told this audience a

4269
02:59:07,190 --> 02:59:06,399
lot about my mom and and how cool she

4270
02:59:10,309 --> 02:59:07,200
was

4271
02:59:12,630 --> 02:59:10,319
and i thought to myself uh bill that if

4272
02:59:15,429 --> 02:59:12,640
anybody was going to come back and

4273
02:59:18,070 --> 02:59:15,439
and and say hello to me uh

4274
02:59:20,550 --> 02:59:18,080
and who would do it would be my mom

4275
02:59:23,030 --> 02:59:20,560
and um i wanted to go through those

4276
02:59:25,670 --> 02:59:23,040
experiences that so many people talk

4277
02:59:28,710 --> 02:59:25,680
about uh when a loved one passed away

4278
02:59:29,670 --> 02:59:28,720
you know wife girlfriend mom dad brother

4279
02:59:32,070 --> 02:59:29,680
sister

4280
02:59:35,190 --> 02:59:32,080
uh you know the visitation that that

4281
02:59:38,150 --> 02:59:35,200
comes back i wanted to enjoy that

4282
02:59:41,030 --> 02:59:38,160
well um it's been four years

4283
02:59:43,510 --> 02:59:41,040
and i'm still waiting

4284
02:59:45,510 --> 02:59:43,520
yeah i'm still waiting it's gonna happen

4285
02:59:46,790 --> 02:59:45,520
at one point and there's gonna be

4286
02:59:49,910 --> 02:59:46,800
something that

4287
02:59:51,910 --> 02:59:49,920
that that happens and my mom letting me

4288
02:59:53,110 --> 02:59:51,920
know that uh

4289
02:59:55,510 --> 02:59:53,120
uh

4290
02:59:58,389 --> 02:59:55,520
she's thinking of me i'm still waiting

4291
02:59:59,990 --> 02:59:58,399
for it i i was hoping bill that it was

4292
03:00:03,030 --> 03:00:00,000
going to happen that week

4293
03:00:05,670 --> 03:00:03,040
and then a month goes by and and and

4294
03:00:08,790 --> 03:00:05,680
i've told everybody nothing yet

4295
03:00:10,710 --> 03:00:08,800
but i'll let everybody know so you just

4296
03:00:13,349 --> 03:00:10,720
got to be patient bill but i think it's

4297
03:00:15,990 --> 03:00:13,359
it's like this when you least expect it

4298
03:00:18,710 --> 03:00:16,000
bam there you go

4299
03:00:21,110 --> 03:00:18,720
exactly thank you jimmy have a great

4300
03:00:24,150 --> 03:00:21,120
night man you too bill thank you so much

4301
03:00:28,550 --> 03:00:24,160
my friend and enjoy your halloween

4302
03:00:32,550 --> 03:00:28,560
and uh with that that will wrap another

4303
03:00:35,269 --> 03:00:32,560
uh halloween uh ghost stories night and

4304
03:00:37,429 --> 03:00:35,279
this year is with jim harold i want to

4305
03:00:39,750 --> 03:00:37,439
thank jim for coming in tonight

4306
03:00:42,389 --> 03:00:39,760
very busy schedule but it was a great

4307
03:00:44,550 --> 03:00:42,399
night i had a great time

4308
03:00:48,389 --> 03:00:44,560
there you go and then uh tomorrow night

4309
03:00:50,309 --> 03:00:48,399
of course is shaw the loon witch

4310
03:00:51,750 --> 03:00:50,319
i am your host jimmy church now tomorrow

4311
03:00:52,710 --> 03:00:51,760
night's going to be a busy night on the

4312
03:00:56,550 --> 03:00:52,720
phones

4313
03:00:58,950 --> 03:00:56,560
and i i say it every year

4314
03:01:01,030 --> 03:00:58,960
i'm gonna have 20 30 people on hold if

4315
03:01:04,389 --> 03:01:01,040
you get a busy signal call back if you

4316
03:01:06,710 --> 03:01:04,399
get on the phone stay in line

4317
03:01:07,590 --> 03:01:06,720
don't hang up because you're going to go

4318
03:01:09,110 --> 03:01:07,600
back

4319
03:01:10,950 --> 03:01:09,120
of the line

4320
03:01:14,150 --> 03:01:10,960
all right so tomorrow night shaw the

4321
03:01:16,389 --> 03:01:14,160
loon witch our eighth annual halloween

4322
03:01:18,309 --> 03:01:16,399
special with shaw fade to black is

4323
03:01:20,070 --> 03:01:18,319
produced by hill j palm renee dennis and

4324
03:01:22,870 --> 03:01:20,080
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4325
03:01:24,790 --> 03:01:22,880
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4326
03:01:27,830 --> 03:01:24,800
the geek music doug aldrich intro

4327
03:01:29,910 --> 03:01:27,840
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4328
03:01:32,710 --> 03:01:29,920
beta black is produced by kjcr for the

4329
03:01:35,349 --> 03:01:32,720
game changer network this broadcast is

4330
03:01:37,349 --> 03:01:35,359
only copyrighted 2021 by fade to black

4331
03:01:39,670 --> 03:01:37,359
in the game changing network inc it

4332
03:01:41,510 --> 03:01:39,680
cannot be rebroadcast downloaded copied

4333
03:01:43,110 --> 03:01:41,520
or used anywhere in the known universe

4334
03:01:44,710 --> 03:01:43,120
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4335
03:01:46,870 --> 03:01:44,720
black of the game changer network i'm

4336
03:01:48,790 --> 03:01:46,880
your host jimmy church tomorrow night

4337
03:01:51,460 --> 03:01:48,800
shaw the loon witch

4338
03:01:52,630 --> 03:01:51,470
until then i want everybody to be safe

4339
03:01:56,930 --> 03:01:52,640
[Music]

4340
03:02:06,630 --> 03:01:56,940
it's time to fade to black

4341
03:02:06,640 --> 03:02:13,050
so

4342
03:02:13,060 --> 03:02:21,670
[Music]

4343
03:02:32,050 --> 03:02:22,860
so